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Box A Rox
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Although for years I've heard that  Upstaters Taxpayers pay the bills for downstate and especially for New York City...
the reality is just the opposite!
NYC Supports Upstate with their Tax Dollars!

"The Capital Region (the Albany area) and the rest of the state, get significantly more than they give."

(The Observer)
http://www.observertoday.com/p.....-gives.html?nav=5007


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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That is true Box but NYC also has a huge amount of expense  for Medicaid, infrastructure maintenance, welfare, and crime control. The city spends the most money but they also bring in the most money.
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That is true Box but NYC also has a huge amount of expense  for Medicaid, infrastructure maintenance, welfare, and crime control. The city spends the most money but they also bring in the most money.


"The upstate region provides 24 percent of the revenues and receives 35 percent of expenditures."
Upstate receives 11% more in benefit dollars than we pay in taxes.  (NYC area pays our extra 11%)

Down state Pays more in taxes than they receive in benefits.


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Bottom line is the whole state and NYC is in debt.
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Bottom line is the whole state and NYC is in debt.


YUP, but that has nothing to do with what I posted.


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I was just pointing out that even though NYC brings in all that money it isn't enough to pay off our debt.
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Consider:
~ If New York were its own country, its army, the New York City Police Department, would be the twentieth-best-funded
army in the world, just behind Greece and just ahead of North Korea.
~ Its GDP, $413.9 billion, would be the seventeenth largest in the world, just behind the Russian Federation and just
ahead of Switzerland.
~ With more than 8 million residents, it would be more populous than Ireland, Switzerland, or New Zealand; roughly half
the countries in the Middle East (including Israel); most of the former republics of the Soviet Union; and all the Scandinavian
countries besides Sweden.

Upstate needs NYC much more than NYC needs Upstate.


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Consider:
~ If New York were its own country, its army, the New York City Police Department, would be the twentieth-best-funded
army in the world, just behind Greece and just ahead of North Korea.
~ Its GDP, $413.9 billion, would be the seventeenth largest in the world, just behind the Russian Federation .


As long as the world trades on the dollar that will be true.  Once America loses world reserve currency status, that will change.  NYC produces nothing, they benefit from Federal Reserve dollars.


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It's like a god cult... Ronny Paulie... the Cult leader, will show us the way... no matter what the problem.  

(remember what happened to the Jim Jones cult)


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It's like a god cult... Ronny Paulie... the Cult leader, will show us the way... no matter what the problem.  

(remember what happened to the Jim Jones cult)


Ron Paul is not a god....not even close


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Ron Paul is not a god....not even close


So... Unlike the Pope... Ron Paul Isn't Infallible???  He can make mistakes??? He can be totally insane???

(You'd never know that with all the Paul Cult worship on this board.)


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Barack Obama was a cult following.  He move people with empty rhetoric of hope and change, and the idiots followed.  Paul actually has a plan and philosophy.  


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Barack Obama was a cult following.  He move people with empty rhetoric of hope and change, and the idiots followed.  Paul actually has a plan and philosophy.  


His plan... legalize drugs, let the druggies out of jail to rape and kill, Abolish abortion for all the young girls that
are raped by the Ron Paul criminals on the streets, eliminate any gun laws, allow unrestricted lobbying,
and watch Paul cash in on his " Gold Investments".


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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His plan... legalize drugs, let the druggies out of jail to rape and kill, Abolish abortion for all the young girls that
are raped by the Ron Paul criminals on the streets, eliminate any gun laws, allow unrestricted lobbying,
and watch Paul cash in on his " Gold Investments".


Wow, easy box...you shouldn't let the Paul derangement syndrome take over this close to Xmas. . I thought youdidn't practice fear politics?  That was crazy.


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