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27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=10,0,0,0">

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/donald-trump-chuck-todd-msnbc_n_1129368.html
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And tell me again...
Why any of us should care what Donald (the hair) Trump, a failed businessman who's gone bankrupt 4 times, and who makes
his living as an entertainer...
We care what he says why????


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I agree that Trump is nothing more then a 'rich showman'. However.........blasting the media for untruths is refreshing and should be done to ALL media outlets whether they lean to the left or to the right!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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.........blasting the media for untruths is refreshing and should be done to ALL media outlets whether they lean to the left or to the right!!


OK:

Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News

Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh
Dickinson University.Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson, explained in a statement,
"Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other
groups being more likely to watch Fox News. Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching
Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

This isn't the first study that has found that Fox News viewers more misinformed in comparison to others. Last
year, a study from the University of Maryland found that Fox News viewers were more likely to believe false
information about politics.


(These studies explain a lot about the some posters on this board   )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....inson_n_1106305.html


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OK:

Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News

Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh
Dickinson University.Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson, explained in a statement,
"Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other
groups being more likely to watch Fox News. Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching
Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

This isn't the first study that has found that Fox News viewers more misinformed in comparison to others. Last
year, a study from the University of Maryland found that Fox News viewers were more likely to believe false
information about politics.


(These studies explain a lot about the some posters on this board   )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....inson_n_1106305.html


Many of the posters on this board prove this study to be correct.  The NNTP/Tea-Partiers/Deranged Extreme Right Wingers are very poorly informed and easily follow the extremist Pied Pipers like Rush Limbaugh and that ilk.



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interesting...so you are not doing a very good job of informing us because no one seems to be following you! Seems like your voice is more line UNREASONABLE


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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OK:

Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News

Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh
Dickinson University.Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson, explained in a statement,
"Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other
groups being more likely to watch Fox News. Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching
Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

This isn't the first study that has found that Fox News viewers more misinformed in comparison to others. Last
year, a study from the University of Maryland found that Fox News viewers were more likely to believe false
information about politics.


(These studies explain a lot about the some posters on this board   )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....inson_n_1106305.html



And if it comes from HufPo, you know it's true!




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And if it comes from HufPo, you know it's true!


No Buck... It comes from Fairleigh Dickinson University, but was carried on multiple outlets... HufPo was just
one of them.
(But of course you already know that   )

The same story about Fox Dummy Viewers from:
NY Daily News
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-22/news/30431182_1_fox-news-results-show-viewers

Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ke.....s-not-poll-suggests/

BBC News
http://www.bbcnewstime.com/fox-news-viewers-know-less-than-people-who-do-not-see-news-study.html

and many more.





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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Repeat the same story over and over until you get somebody to believe it.
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Quoted from Shadow
Repeat the same story over and over until you get somebody to believe it.


Really Shadow??? Really???

I posted one story... the source was Fairleigh Dickinson University.
Buck seemed to have a problem that the story was posted from a liberal site, Huffington Post, so I posted the same
story from several sources.  NY Daily News, BBC and Forbes.
The original source of the story is  Fairleigh Dickinson University.  Their research that Fox News viewers are less
informed than those people who watch no news at all, is telling.  This study matches other studies on the same
subject... that Fox News Viewers are less knowledgeable than the general population.

Here is the entire study from the University.

Maybe you are right.  Maybe some people (especially Fox Viewers) need to read a story over and over
before it sinks in.  

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/


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Well that would be true if you are a Fox viewer.
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Well that would be true if you are a Fox viewer.


I go to several news outlets for the news.  I also listen or read commentary, but I don't consider "opinion" to be news.
FoxSnooze seems to specialize in mixing opinion with news so the blend fits their viewing audience's  preconceived
agenda.  
If your a Conservative, and you  watch Fox, you will hear what you want to hear, not what actually is.  FoxSnooze
will reinforce what you already believe, not inform you of actual news that may differ from your present views.


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5 examples of the Fox News Effect,
the more you watch, the less you know:

1. Iraq War. In 2003, a survey by the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland found widespread public misperceptions about the Iraq war. For instance, many Americans believed that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq had been involved in 9/11, or that it possessed weapons of mass destruction prior to the U.S. invasion. But not everyone was equally misinformed: “The extent of Americans’ misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news,” PIPA reported. “Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” For instance, 80 % of Fox viewers held at least one of three Iraq-related misperceptions, more than a variety of other types of news consumers, and especially NPR and PBS users.

2. Global Warming. In a late 2010 survey, Stanford University’s Jon Krosnick found that “more exposure to Fox News was associated with more rejection of many mainstream scientists’ claims about global warming, with less trust in scientists, and with more belief that ameliorating global warming would hurt the U.S. economy.” Notably, there was a 25 percentage point gap between the most frequent Fox News watchers (60 %) and those who watch no Fox news (85 %) in whether they think global warming is “caused mostly by things people do or about equally by things people do and natural causes.”


3. Health Care. Earlier this year, the Kaiser Family Foundation released a survey on U.S. misperceptions about health care reform. The survey asked 10 questions, and compared the “high scorers”—those that answered 7 or more correct—based on their media habits. The result was that “higher shares of those who report CNN (35 percent) or MSNBC (39 percent) as their primary news source [got] 7 or more right, compared to those who report mainly watching Fox News (25 percent).”

4. Ground Zero Mosque. In late 2010, two scholars at the Ohio State University studied public misperceptions about the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque”—and in particular, the prevalence of a series of rumors depicting those seeking to build the mosque as terrorist sympathizers, anti-American, and so on. The result? “People who use Fox News believe more of the rumors we asked about and they believe them more strongly than those who do not.” Respondents reporting a “low reliance” on Fox News believed .9 rumors on average (out of 4), but for those reporting a “high reliance” on Fox News, the number increased to 1.5 out of 4.

5. 2010 Election. Late last year, the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) once again singled out Fox in a survey about misinformation during the 2010 election. Out of 11 false claims studied in the survey, PIPA found that “almost daily” Fox News viewers were “significantly more likely than those who never watched it” to believe 9 of them, including the misperception that “most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring.”

It’s important to note that these studies do not prove causation. In other words, they do not prove that watching Fox makes people believe incorrect things. After all, it could be that those who are more likely to believe the incorrect things listed above are also more likely to watch Fox, to seek out Fox, etc. The causation could go in the opposite direction.

Still, the evidence above is striking.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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