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He's not a war criminal by our standards.

Shadow,
Are you saying that American standards for torture are even lower then the rest of the worlds view of torture???

According to former POW John McCain, who knows quite a bit about torture... Waterboarding IS torture.

Most human rights experts consider Water Boarding a form of torture, banned by the Convention on Torture.
Switzerland and the U.S. are among 147 countries that have ratified that 1987 treaty.

The USA has prosecuted Japanese officers for waterboarding:
In 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form
of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian. The subject was strapped on a stretcher that was tilted so that his feet were
in the air and head near the floor, and small amounts of water were poured over his face, leaving him gasping for
air until he agreed to talk.
Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

Why isn't the Obama justice department charging GWB with war crimes?  I thought Democrats were the "good guys"?

Box why don't you bring up what was done to our captured soldiers in Vietnam, or by Japan and Germany in WW2. That was torture. The USA has always had higher standards than other countries that we have fought against and that has always been the problem. Would you like our military to get the terrorists a room at a 5 star hotel with a hot tub, a girl for the night, and a steak dinner and ask him to talk after dinner? By the way the Japanese forced our soldiers upside down with their whole head submerged in water for quite a long time which is much different from what our country did.

Quoted from Shadow

Box why don't you bring up what was done to our captured soldiers in Vietnam, or by Japan and Germany in WW2. That was torture. The USA has always had higher standards than other countries that we have fought against
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Yes you are right Shadow, the USA always had a higher standard than some of our enemies... and you now propose
that we stoop to their level.  

I would rather bring them up to our (except for George Worst Bush) standard.

Torture is wrong...

Today's Republican Candidates would support water boarding, except for Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former
Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman.

“Torture is illegal … waterboarding is torture,” Paul said. “It’s illegal under international law and under our
law. It’s also immoral and it’s also very impractical. There’s no evidence that you really get reliable evidence.”

“We diminish our standing in the world and the values we project — which include liberty, democracy, human
rights and open markets — when we torture,” Huntsman said. “We should not torture. Waterboarding is torture.”

Paul’s campaign noted that in the 1980s, the Reagan Justice Department identified
waterboarding as torture.

You can join the ranks of Torturers Shadow... I prefer that we opt for the moral high ground.

dont think they aren't all in the same club......it just depends on how much the media cost......

each generation has different tolerances to PC government......keep it in the open....it happens and ALWAYS will....