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Federal government doesn't tax my production to pay for it.


Nope... Your local Socialist govt taxes you to pay for your local Socialist Library.

NOTE:
DO you think that socialism only exists on the federal level?


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Nope there's a socialist local tax to provide local socialist services.


Not a national tax.  Socialism is a NATION philosophy, not local.  If Rotterdam wants social security, they can pay for it.


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Nope... Your local Socialist govt taxes you to pay for your local Socialist Library.

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DO you think that socialism only exists on the federal level?


That's if I CHOOSE to purchase property in a community that levies that tax.  It doesn't tax my production.


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what I dont get is the fact that a tax pays for libraries at all above the salaries......the grant monies and the cute little fund raisers elbow rubbing

http://seethroughny.net/payrolls/special-districts/


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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  Socialism is a NATION philosophy, not local.  .


Socialism can be at any level of govt.

Socialism:
a theory or system of social organization  that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of
production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Socialism can be at any level of govt.

Socialism:
a theory or system of social organization  that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of
production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.


they forgot the part of the definition that says.....socialism tells you what you need because you dont know


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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they forgot the part of the definition that says.....socialism tells you what you need because you dont know


Not in my dictionary!


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Not in my dictionary!


that's because it's insidious and obfuscated


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Socialism can be at any level of govt.

Socialism:
a theory or system of social organization  that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of
production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.


I guess by your definition a corporation is a type of socialism you would support?


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I guess by your definition a corporation is a type of socialism you would support?


It's my dictionary's definition, not mine.


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It's my dictionary's definition, not mine.


You dictionary's definition would consider a corporation socialist?


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You dictionary's definition would consider a corporation socialist?


A co-op is a form of socialist corporation.


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A co-op is a form of socialist corporation.


true...and they work to...but at THEIR OWN EXPENSE....when they become stale they fall apart and when the people decide they want another one is raised....all by themselves...that is what
makes them successful...no politico interference...


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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America is awash with Socialism, but many Americans, especially the Rabid Right, refuse to recognize it's existence.  
There perception of Socialism is always negative and never a positive force.  It really limits their thinking.


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America is awash with Socialism, but many Americans, especially the Rabid Right, refuse to recognize it's existence.  
There perception of Socialism is always negative and never a positive force.  It really limits their thinking.


socialism is good at small PERSONALLY CHOSEN group levels.....not dictated by the top....why do you think we are in this stupid mess of OWS/Tea Party.....because everyone is fighting over
the socialized "free sh!t".....because we decide to take the road most traveled and easy, accepting of the crumbs left over and stopped ladder climbing, leaving it to 'those who know better' or
'they are more educated' blah blah blah.....beat a dog over and over and eventually it will just sit in the corner taking whatever you toss it......



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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