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Wikileaks cables report that Obama sought to make his democraps happy by apologizing for the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Even Obama thinks we started the war. Democraps always think America is wrong, I think THEY are the wrong ones...

http://wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09TOKYO2033.html

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5.  (C) VFM Yabunaka pointed out that the Japanese public
will have high expectations toward President Obama's visit to
Japan in November, as the President enjoys an historic level
of popularity among the Japanese people.  Anti-nuclear
groups, in particular, will speculate whether the President
would visit Hiroshima in light of his April 5 Prague speech
on non-proliferation.  He underscored, however, that both
governments must temper the public's expectations on such
issues, as the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to
apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a
"non-starter."  While a simple visit to Hiroshima without
fanfare is sufficiently symbolic to convey the right message,
it is premature to include such program in the November
visit.  Yabunaka recommended that the visit in November
center mostly in Tokyo, with calls on the Emperor and Prime
Minister, as well as some form of public program, such as
speeches, an engagement at a university, or a town hall-like
meeting with local residents.  



http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php?topic=5117.0


http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110928f4.html

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....izing-for-hiroshima/

http://hotair.com/archives/201.....ology-for-hiroshima/



"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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awwwwwwwwwww......this makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!!!

Apologizing for something that happened before you were even born!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Long on speculation... Short on FACTS.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I see nothing wrong with Hillary Clinton and President Obama reaching out to the Japanese in order to strengthen our bonds with them....apologizing may or may not be the proper thing to do but in this instance, from reading the cable -- The Japanese Leadership felt we need not do so at this time and declined our offer.....there is nothing to say on this further.
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Democrat Party seeks to apologize to Japan for War???
Really???

Again,
Long on speculation... Short on FACTS.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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What exactly is unclear in the diplo cable reporting the Japanese diplomatic attitude toward the offer of an apology?

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He underscored, however, that both
governments must temper the public's expectations on such
issues, as the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to
apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a
"non-starter."


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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The thread subject line is:
~ "Democrat Party seeks to apologize to Japan for War" ~

Does the text show that anywhere???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Foreign Minister Mitoji Yabunaka had a discussion with the American ambassador. Why would the apology issue be brought up by the Japanese? A serious breech of protocol! This was in response to an American overture!

Dissect the discussion. Yabunaka made statements to the American Ambassador, Roos. These are the salient points regarding this issue:


The Japanese public will have high expectations toward President Obama's visit to
Japan in November, as the President enjoys an historic level
of popularity among the Japanese people.
  

Anti-nuclear
groups, in particular, will speculate whether the President
would visit Hiroshima in light of his April 5 Prague speech
on non-proliferation.
  

both governments must temper the public's expectations on such
issues, as the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to
apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a
"non-starter."


WHY OH WHY OH WHY would the issue of "apology" be mentioned if it were not broached in conversation between Roos and Yabunaka, on behalf of the administration?  Yabunaka wouldn't blurt it out like "OH, by the way- having the POTUS apologize to us for that Hiroshima thing is a non-starter just in case you were thinking about having him do that."

You democraps are hysterical!!!!  


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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What Democrats... NOT the president, not the Democrat Party... Speculation and innuendo..everything but facts.


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Yes, I imagine every meeting between the foreign minister and our ambassador contains a statement from the Japanese Minister saying:

Oh, by the way, please tell the President that when he visits -don't bother apologizing about that Hiroshima thing, in case he has a "yen" to."


Really, how coy! YOU know and I know that this is a matter that was only discussed because a dimplomatic feeler was put out from the USA to the JAPS. There is no reason such a sensitive issue is discussed or brought up in this manner unless it is BROACHED by US. The JAPANESE DON'T ASSUME WE WANT TO APOLOGIZE, YOU IDIOT! You don't rise in diplomacy by insulting your counterparts, FOOL-MAN! YOU KNOW HOW THIS WENT DOWN! OMG!!!!  

MAN UP and admit it! OR, you can do what you guys do here on the board when you want to be cute-

YUAN!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Democrat Party seeks to apologize to Japan for War...
Sounds pretty self explanatory... The Democrat party (not Obama) seeks to apologize to Japan...
Only...
There is nothing about the Democrat Party in the text...
Nothing about The Democrat Party wanting to apologize...
And nothing about Obama wanting to apologize.

YET...
The post states the Democrat Party seeks to apologize.  No evidence, no facts, no nuttin.

  Graham says "HE IMAGINES"... HE IMAGINES???
WOW!  Pretty lame.  

I Imagine that George Worst Bush had wild crazy monkey sex with a chimp... so that must be true too.       


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Well, the PRESIDENT OF THE USA WHO IS THE TITULAR HEAD OF THE DEMOCRAP PARTY WANTS TO APOLOGIZE! Is this the Tea Party that wants to apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Just get Godzilla and bring him to America.....he can fix us


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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This whole thread is amazing...
A  bogus subject line... No evidence of any Democrat wanting to apologize... No evidence that Obama ever considered an apology...
The Entire thread is based on "a possibility that anti nuke groups speculation that Obama would apologize.

A senior White House official asserts to ABC News that there was never any plan for the president to apologize for Hiroshima.  The    cable does not state that the idea was from the U.S.
Rather, Roos writes that Yabunaka thought that following President Obama’s call earlier that year for a world free of nuclear weapons, anti-nuclear groups would speculate as to whether he would visit Hiroshima.

Amazing!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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He's already bowed to them as a sign of humility and submissiveness - an apology would be overkill.
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