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October 31, 2011, 7:04am Report to Moderator
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I never realized that GWB/Cheney had such control over all the Dems in Congress.



And former presidents, and Margaret Thatcher ... and future presidential hopefuls ...

Wow, for a guy you say is the worst, he sure had a LOT of clout and power ...
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I never realized that GWB/Cheney had such control over all the Dems in Congress.


Shadow...
There is no doubt about the deception that the Bush Administration perpetrated on the American people or the US Congress
(both Dem and Rep alike).  
I've posted the facts several times on this board... Read for yourself about the "White Paper Report" that Bush gave to the
US Congress... it was full of lies and deception.
Also read the Downing Street memo... that confirms the Bush Deception in England to get the support of the Blair government.  
Read the "Select committee on Intelligence report"

http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf

Repeatedly the report states that the Bush conclusions drawn from the existing pre-war intelligence "WAS NOT
SUPPORTED BY THE INTELLIGENCE"

Bush lied to the American people and to the US Congress to promote his oil war.

You can go on believing what ever you want about the WMD's... that's up to you.  I prefer to deal with the facts.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The only trouble with your answer is that Clinton, Kerry, Albright, and Pelosi were all saying the same thing long before Bush/Cheney were ever elected.
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The only trouble with your answer is that Clinton, Kerry, Albright, and Pelosi were all saying the same thing long before Bush/Cheney were ever elected.


Shadow... when I answer your questions, you discard the FACTS that don't agree with your agenda.
I'll answer your question, but then you have to either prove my post to be in error, or accept the facts of the post.  OK?


Saddam played the political game, even better than his advisories... If Iraq were seen to be a weak, unarmed, vulnerable country, his enemies would take advantage of his weakness.  It was in Saddam's best interest if the rest of the world considered him to be a
dangerous dictator, instead of an easy target.  
The more rumors of Chemical Weapons, Nuke Weapons, and WMD'S that were circulated, the less Saddam had to fear from his
neighbors, and from his own opposition in Iraq.

Here is a report posted in the NY Daily News dated, Wednesday, June 24, 2009.
~ Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show ~
Asked about WMDs, Saddam insisted: "We destroyed them. We told you."
"By God, if I had such weapons, I would have used them in the fight against the U.S."


Asked how he would have faced "fanatic" Iranian ayatollahs if Iraq had been proven toothless by UN weapons inspectors in 2003,
Saddam said he would have cut a deal with Bush.
"Hussein replied Iraq would have been extremely vulnerable to attack from Iran and would have sought a security agreement with the U.S. to protect it from threats in the region," according to a 2004 FBI report among the declassified files.

(NY Daily News)
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-06-24/news/17925882_1_saddam-hussein-al-qaeda-iraq


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In boxes world, Congress has no culpability in taking a America to war.  Maybe if we declared war before going to war, then this bullshit blame game would not even be an issue.  But...As we all know, Obama likes having the king like power to use America's might to attack our "enemies" around the world.

How many countries are we in militarily since Barack has been president?  It's like six or something. I know,,I know,,,drone attacks, cruise missiles and air strikes don't count as a war like action.  Just like Gitmo isn't a detainment camp that democrats thought "created more terrorists".  It is now necessary and is "keeping us safe".  

And we wonder why Ron Paul is appealing.  


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And we wonder why Ron Paul is appealing.  


Except to a very small segment of America... He Isn't.



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Except to a very small segment of America... He Isn't.



It remains to be seen how small, after all, John McCain was polling in third this time in 2007.  What is clear is, that after the 2008 elections, the phony anti war democrats like yourself has retreated back into the party bosom and latched firmly onto the government teat.  


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