What a spin job you put on that one Box. When some liberal progressive nut job takes Hoffa seriously and literally take some conservative out with an Uzi or an Ak47 watch the Dems distance themselves from that kind of rhetoric.

Yup, me too...I know what side I'm on...I'm on the American Constitutions side...I won't do the bidding for some dumb fu(k labor boss or some international corporation...Unfortunately there are the "True Believers" like box, who can be polarized to do the bidding for some non-existent unattainable greater cause.  

Democrats and Republicans BACK NOBODY, EVERYBODY IS EXPENDIBLE.  Their sole purpose is to maintain power.  

all mass movements spread by promising a glorious future. To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals. To do so, mass movements often glorify the past and devalue the present. Mass movements appeal to frustrated people who are dissatisfied with their current state, but are capable of a strong belief in the future. As well, mass movements appeal to people who want to escape a flawed self by creating an imaginary self and joining a collective whole.

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What a spin job you put on that one Box. When some liberal progressive nut job takes Hoffa seriously and literally take some conservative out with an Uzi or an Ak47 watch the Dems distance themselves from that kind of rhetoric.

It must be the Conservative propensity to violence that leads them to opt for a mean spirited version of the speech.
Take out... Like when you ask a TeaBagger for Chinese Take Out... "Egg Rolls anyone"???"
or
Take out... "Hey baby... I wanna take you out."
or
Take out... "Honey take out the garbage, it stinks"... as was Mr Hoffa's intent in his speech concerning the garbage known as TeaBaggers.

Conservative anti social mindset must lead them to always take the most violent meaning of a speech.  Pity!  

The way you can spin things away from what is really meant you should be working for the Dem party. That's good damage control Box but we both know it's pure BS.

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Conservative anti social mindset must lead them to always take the most violent meaning of a speech.  Pity!  

So Hoffa wanted Obama's "army"(Teamsters) to go get Chinese egg rolls?  

I don't think the White House will be hiring you for their communications director anytime soon.

The reality of this whole Hoffa comment is that it was contrived by the White House from the beginning.  The White House was 3 steps ahead of everybody...The Democrats knew damn well that the national media would run these clips nonstop during the 24 hour news cycle – and for DAYS.  

Ask yourself this - If you wanted to reach and mobilize as many members of the labor unions across the country, how would you do it?  Why not have the most recognizable union leader make a controversial and inflammatory pro union speech before introducing the president. They've gotten more legs from this story than they could have hoped for.  And the more the Obama administration ignores and sidestep the media on the issue, the more they know the media will continue showing the clip.  Which is exactly what they want.

Post #52... it sure worked on this Right Winger board!  

IT IS UP TO EACH GENERATION TO FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS

BIGGEST LIE TOLD TO THE NEXT GENERATION IS: I WORK THIS HARD SO YOU DONT HAVE TO......WTF!!! Their own parents telling them they DONT have to fight......YEAH....F'en move to the bottom of the food chain and die....because, I will be dead when you
come across this fight and have no F'EN idea what to do because I LIED TO YOU........

STUPID  STUPID  STUPID

Saying violence and the Teamsters don't go hand in hand is laughable...
Watch ANY picket line the teamsters are involved in, and while you're at it, why don't you ask Jimmy Hoffa Jr where Jimmy Hoffa SR is?

Box of Rox like James Hoffa knows that Obama is a miserable failure and will be dumped next November. Even DVR and Yossi have washed their hands of this idiot. It doesn't matter which of the REPS wins the nomination. Obama will be lucky to carry Vermont and DC. Apparently DC residents don't mind a black youth unemployment rate over 40%. Obama will go down in history as the biggest job destroyer in history who actually made Herbert Hoover look good.

I know that Jimmy Carter is happy with Obama.

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Box of Rox like James Hoffa knows that Obama is a miserable failure and will be dumped next November. Even DVR and Yossi have washed their hands of this idiot. It doesn't matter which of the REPS wins the nomination. Obama will be lucky to carry Vermont and DC. Apparently DC residents don't mind a black youth unemployment rate over 40%. Obama will go down in history as the biggest job destroyer in history who actually made Herbert Hoover look good.

Sorry Benny, but I'm still backing Obama.  
I realize that the defining issue of the 2012 Election has yet to be determined (most likely the economy or jobs).  There is always a pop up issue, a scandal, a misquote, a huge campaign gaff or as in the case of a major terrorist attack, no way of knowing what will be the primary issues a year and 2 months from now.

As it stands today, Obama is the only candidate that I would feel comfortable voting for... several I would vote against, and as yet, there is no reasonable alternative to Obama for most Democrats and many independents.

I wouldn't count on too many independents supporting Obama.

You don't know the defining issue yet? It's Obama stupid. He has already destroyed more jobs than any President in history. Rotsa Ruck getting him votes in Fulton County.