Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You better check your facts --.

What are the FACTS about the fat cat Morris' getting the STAR exemption on each house....in violation of state law AND at the expense of the financially struggling taxpayers??????

No answer, huh?     Too embarrassed to admit he is violating the law courtesy of your dem buddies running the city, town, and county

Governor Carey was also a benevolent man ... giving to many good causes.

He established the Paul R. Carey Foundation to assist cancer patients -- the foundation named for his son who I had the privilege of knowing and who died of cancer in 2001

I knew this one, I know that one, I met this person. I saw him once, I held an umbrella for her once, I lit his cigarette one night..it is not about YOU all the time, man-boy.

When's the last time you went to NYC? It's still and always will be the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. No one calls the Alfred E Smith building anything else.

In explaining what happens with regard to layoffs, I am not comparing apples to oranges, as I am not COMPARING anything. Layoffs are civil service employees. Layoffs are by item and seniority, not political affiliation. Yes, the system is manipulated to "hide" political appointees and hang on to them,that is not in dispute. Appointees are not laid off, they are fired. There is a difference. Everything in my post is accurate.

the larger pigs always push the smaller pigs from the trough.....it IS a barnyard called politics/power ya know......

oink oink

NEVER RELY ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR FORTUNE.....THAT'S PLAIN STUPID

Quoted from senders

.....THAT'S PLAIN STUPID

Had to laugh...had to read twice, cuz thought you said PALIN STUPID!!!!

Quoted from joebxr

Had to laugh...had to read twice, cuz thought you said PALIN STUPID!!!!

I was going to but figured someone should get it.....

Quoted from Madam X

In explaining what happens with regard to layoffs, I am not comparing apples to oranges, as I am not COMPARING anything. Layoffs are civil service employees. Layoffs are by item and seniority, not political affiliation. Yes, the system is manipulated to "hide" political appointees and hang on to them,that is not in dispute. Appointees are not laid off, they are fired. There is a difference. Everything in my post is accurate.

I didn't say your statements were inaccurate -- I just said that comparing political appointees to civil service employees was like comparing apples and oranges.   Otherwise, I have no quarrel with you.

Bottomline - JoeBoxer made a false claim that he was laid off on the 2nd day of the Carey Administration.

Quoted from Madam X

In explaining what happens with regard to layoffs, I am not comparing apples to oranges, as I am not COMPARING anything. Layoffs are civil service employees. Layoffs are by item and seniority, not political affiliation. Yes, the system is manipulated to "hide" political appointees and hang on to them,that is not in dispute. Appointees are not laid off, they are fired. There is a difference. Everything in my post is accurate.

I didn't say your statements were inaccurate -- I just said that comparing political appointees to civil service employees was like comparing apples and oranges.   Otherwise, I have no quarrel with you.

Bottomline - JoeBoxer made a false claim that he was laid off on the 2nd day of the Carey Administration.

Actually the Hugh L. Carey Tunnel is my favorite way to enter lower Manhattan.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Bottomline - JoeBoxer made a false claim that he was laid off on the 2nd day of the Carey Administration.

Bottom line is you are lying again you dumba$$ double posting moronic poor excuse of human flesh.  Why don't you ask someone to read these posts to you so they can explain them, because you obviously can't comprehend the written word.

POST #38 of this thread:

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

You are the one spewing falsehoods -- you claim that Hugh Carey laid you off on his 2nd day in office -- and since the only folks who lost jobs on the 2nd day he was in office were political appointees  --- > you were either a political appointee who got axed or you are a liar ... plain and simple.  

Either way - I am through discussing the point - since it has nothing to do with the actual thread.

Post #3 in this thread I said "...after he was sworn in"
Post #5 in this thread I stated "I was not a political appointee and I was laid off....he cut jobs."
Post #12 in this thread I said "CORRECTION:
I must apologize if I may be wrong on "when" the layoffs happened.  I cannot find my records, so to say it was days after his election would be questionable.  I honestly cannot pinpoint when they happened, other than they happened!"
Post #25 in this thread YOU SAID " the fact is that Governor Carey did NOT lay off state workers on his 2nd day in office"....your words, NOT MINE
Post #28 in this thread I stated "Not registered with either party.  I took the exam and qualifed 1st for open position,6 months later was interviewed, made an offer and accepted"

Political appointees didn't take exams.
I was not registered for either party
The position I had would never have been a political apointment becuase it was not not that kind of job
If I had been a Political appointee I have no problem saying so, but that was not the case.
You said 2nd day, I said after his election and later stated I couldn't say exactly when the layoffs were.

Now there are all the facts that I stated so go ahead and twist, spin and fabricate all the BS you want.

Sounds like you ar not finished discussing it....you just want to keep throwing out smoke and mirror spins on the truth that has been stated!

Quoted from INSIGNIFICANTTHOUGHTS.COM

Hugh Carey Tunnel Is Coming; Reason Why Even More Interesting
Posted on December 12, 2010

Former New York Governor Hugh Carey will be honored by having the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel renamed the Hugh Carey tunnel. Many have called Hugh Carey one of the greatest Governors New York State ever had. Why? Because he pulled New York through one of the toughest economic crises ever. Wikipedia has a pretty good summation of how he did it. See if you notice anything interesting.

Carey was elected Governor in 1974, unseating incumbent Republican Malcolm Wilson, who had assumed the office after Nelson Rockefeller had resigned. President Richard Nixon’s resignation that year because of the Watergate scandal made Republicans nationally unpopular. Carey became the state’s first Democratic Governor in 16 years. In 1974, Democrats also recaptured the New York State Assembly. Carey is best remembered for his successful handling of New York City’s economic crisis in the late 1970s. As Governor he was responsible for building the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center; Battery Park City; the South Street Seaport and the economic development of the outer boroughs of NYC. He also helped provide state funding for the construction of the Carrier Dome at Syracuse University. He is also remembered for preventing conservative legislators from reinstating the death penalty and preventing such legislators from taking away state abortion laws.

Upon taking office, Carey cut taxes significantly, reduced corporate taxes from 14 percent to 10 percent, capped personal income tax at nine percent, and reduced capital gains taxes. His administration also offered tax credits to encourage new investment.

Carey came into office with New York City close to bankruptcy. He brought business and labor together to help save New York City from the fiscal crisis that befell it in the 1970s. Carey managed to keep the growth of state spending below the rate of inflation through his frequent of use line-item veteos and fights with the New York State Legislature, which the Republicans controlled in the Senate and the Democrats controlled in the Assembly.

Can you imagine a Democrat operating on a platform like that in 2010?

The irony is that Carey is credited (quite frequently by Democrats, ironically enough) of pulling the state out of an economic nightmare using methods that, today, are called “gifts for the rich” and “rewards to Wall Street” and “Screwing Main Street.” For a guy who’s widely accepted to be a great Governor, we sure didn’t learn a lot from him, did we?

They would never cut anything now because the welfare lowlife vote would want to pull a "flash mob" to take some things away from the "rich."

I have particularly fond memories of a party held at the Executive Mansion -- when I was in college -- it is a very nice place to live and a great venue for entertaining.