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You would think that if the Globe ran the story and said that the Navy Times reported it the story would have been checked before they printed it.
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You would think that if the Globe ran the story and said that the Navy Times reported it the story would have been checked before they printed it.


You would have thought so huh.  They did link the story to the Navy Times... but the link didn't go there.

I've seen stories like this before.  They hit the web, then get forwarded by email, then picked up by blogs, much the way you did, then the story just grows and grows...
Soon millions of references to the story make it impossible to trace the story to the original source.  I don't know if this story is true or not... but the more we look and can't find a valid source, the more suspicious it becomes.


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I read the blog and from what they indicate is the Navy Times printed the story in their hard copy but didn't print it in their electronic version for what ever reason they didn't say. The guy who wrote the story was one of 3 people allowed to read Kerry's military records during the dispute with the swiftboat vets.
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I read the blog and from what they indicate is the Navy Times printed the story in their hard copy but didn't print it in their electronic version for what ever reason they didn't say. The guy who wrote the story was one of 3 people allowed to read Kerry's military records during the dispute with the swiftboat vets.


I'll ask you one question that may make a difference.  Do you think the Stiftboat Vets are a reliable source for this story?
To me, what they print in a blog is irrelevant.  You may believe them, but I look at them as having a vested interest in this case... they have been anti Kerry for a long long time.

As a blog, their words are about as reliable as ours here on this message board.


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No the Swiftboat Vets have an agenda so I would be skeptical. From what I found a guy named Ben Smith from Politico saw the original story in the Navy Times. The reason for the rescinding of the silver star is explained below by a Navy spokeswoman and has nothing to do with Kerry.  The Navy Times (no link) reported last week that Navy Secretary Ray Mabus stripped the Silver Star from a Vietnam swift boat veteran, Capt. Wade Sanders:

    "Had the subsequently determined facts and evidence surrounding both the incident for which the award was made and the processing of the award itself been known to the Secretary of the Navy in 1992, those facts would have prevented the award of the Silver Star," [Mabus spokeswoman Pamela] Kunze said.
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No the Swiftboat Vets have an agenda so I would be skeptical. From what I found a guy named Ben Smith from Politico saw the original story in the Navy Times. The reason for the rescinding of the silver star is explained below by a Navy spokeswoman and has nothing to do with Kerry.  The Navy Times (no link) reported last week that Navy Secretary Ray Mabus stripped the Silver Star from a Vietnam swift boat veteran, Capt. Wade Sanders:

    "Had the subsequently determined facts and evidence surrounding both the incident for which the award was made and the processing of the award itself been known to the Secretary of the Navy in 1992, those facts would have prevented the award of the Silver Star," [Mabus spokeswoman Pamela] Kunze said.


Here is the link to Politico's Ben Smith BLOG you mentioned.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0711/SwiftVets_revenge.html


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'Swift Boat' Veteran Who Defended Kerry Stripped of Silver Star

By Judson Berger
Published July 27, 2011
| FoxNews.com

A Vietnam veteran who defended Sen. John Kerry against "Swift Boat" attacks in the 2004 presidential race has been stripped of his Silver Star by the Navy -- more than a year after he was sentenced to prison on a child pornography charge.
But the Silver Star wasn't stripped from Wade Sanders because of the child porn conviction, per se.
Military officials told Fox News the medal was revoked in 2010 after Navy investigators looked into his record and found administrative errors surrounding how the award was created. Sources said Sanders was responsible for those administrative errors and may have lied.

The case indirectly stemmed from the child porn conviction because the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) only looked into his record after the child pornography charge. ................>>>>...............>>>>.................Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-star/#ixzz1TOi5TFmp
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Finally a 'news' report about this story.  Of course it did come from Fox News... Fox names it's source as "Military officials".



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