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IraRotterdam
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[color=red][/color]The ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union:  The ACLU is after an inn keeper in Vermont, the inn keeper would not accommodate a function for a 'gay couple'.  Seems to me no one is 'gay' about the situation with the exception of the ACLU.

I have always believed there is a need for an ACLU, unfortunately the ACLU is hell bent on tearing America apart.   They delight in rubbing Americas nose in the dirt.  Once in a while they take a right turn to confuse US.  The defense of Nazi's in Skokie, Illinois in 1977.  The ACLU lines up with the communist, not National Socialist but defending Nazi's contributes to disorder.  Disorder is good, right?

There is a perception that the ACLU has been the 'legal arm' of the American Communist Party.  The communist want to bring America down.  America is to communism what Jesus was to the devil.  In America the devil is winning.

Nazi's in 1977, gays 2011, whatever works for the ACLU to create another situation that divides US.  Divide & conquer.

Is there an organization ready to meet the ACLU challenge?  If you tell me the American justice system, I will puke.  It is time someone stand up to the ACLU.  Lawyers (liars), capitalist (with money), do something for your country.  Stop belly aching on FOX, put your money where your mouth is.


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The ACLU is just that, Civil Liberties Union.  They stand up for the US Constitution and the Rights of Americans.

From their website:
The ACLU is our nation's guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.

These rights include:

    Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
    Your right to equal protection under the law - protection against unlawful discrimination.
    Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
    Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.

The ACLU also works to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including people of color; women; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people; prisoners; and people with disabilities.

If the rights of society's most vulnerable members are denied, everybody's rights are imperiled.

How can you disagree with that?


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I hope Box A Rox retains his confidence in the ACLU in the coming years.
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The ACLU has been consistent... weather it's the rights of a minority... any minority, or the rights of all citizens to vote, the ACLU has been there protecting our US Constitutional guaranteed rights.


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Quoted from Box A Rox
The ACLU has been consistent... weather it's the rights of a minority... any minority, or the rights of all citizens to vote, the ACLU has been there protecting our US Constitutional guaranteed rights.


where were they when the liberals were drafting young boys to fight in nam? Nam wasn't a threat to the security of this country!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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where were they when the liberals were drafting young boys to fight in nam? Nam wasn't a threat to the security of this country!!


Good question Bumble...
The answer:
~ As early as 1965, the ACLU provided legal assistance for individuals who had lost their draft deferment because of their anti-war demonstrations. Local ACLU boards, such as the New York Civil Liberties Union, went to great lengths to protect First Amendment rights, winning 90% of their 269 cases.

~In a landmark case involving students who wore black armbands to protest military action in Vietnam and were suspended by their school district. With the help of the ACLU, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the students and a precedent was set expanding the free speech rights of individuals in schools.

~ACLU provided critical support  with conscientious objectors. As in World War I, the ACLU continued to defend the rights of COs and their objection to conscription.

On many issues there was dissension among ACLU members regarding the issues involved in the Vietnam war.  In many cases, the state ACLU affiliate would support issues that the National ACLU did not comment on.



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..............Let's tell the other half of the story from the same site you got your information.....k? Let's not be too selective....k?

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In sharp contrast to Walker, other secondary literature put a different political spin on the ACLU’s involvement with anti-war efforts. William Donohue (2006) argued that it was the state affiliates that took a more direct role in defending demonstrators than the national board. He continued the argument by inferring that motives behind this defense were more political in nature, because they allowed union members to expand their left wing ideals.
http://www.kon.org/urc/aclu/scribner.html


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Quoted from bumblethru
..............Let's tell the other half of the story from the same site you got your information.....k? Let's not be too selective....k?

http://www.kon.org/urc/aclu/scribner.html


Read the last line of my post.  I posted that there was desertion among the ACLU members on this issue.

But, more important...
If you wanted to post this information about the ACLU...WHY DIDN'T YOU???
Instead you asked me???



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