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Planet Of The Apes 'rerun'


I believe in less government, fewer governing entities.  Less is best.


I live in 'uppstate NY' that is anywhere but greater NYCity within state boundaries.


'Upstate' is a colony of the big rotten apple.  We have no representation, just Quisling sellouts.


As a child of the 'North' I was educated to believe the North was on the side of right in the Civil War.  Slavery was an abomination that will eventually lead to the destruction of America.  Now I find out the Civil War was over everything but slavery.  If that be true then I was lied to as a child.


The 'South' was right, the North was wrong.  Either way this country will be torn apart.  In the spirit of rebellion I suggest you read the following letter I lifted from WND site.


The world existed for uddles of years without an America, it will be like that sooner than one might expect.


"We who are about to die salute you" with a middle finger, that is America.


In a segment of Planet Of The Apes the Statue Of Liberty is found, face down in the sand.  The apes are here..


Which state will secede 1st?


Federally sponsored gunrunning to narco-gangsters in Mexico; institutionalized child molestation by federal TSA employees in airports; unelected federal "czars" inventing and enforcing national policy; a planted Manchurian candidate of hidden background occupying the Oval Office; a Homeland Security Department run by a Mussolini clone obsessed with retooling America into a nightmarish Orwellian police state; an EPA battle-axe who issues extralegal fiats that can bring down entire industries, raise prices skyward and throw countless thousands out of work; endless prosecution of undeclared unwinnable wars to sustain chaos, retaliation and fear; a shadow government within a government, accountable to no one, spending billions if not trillions on secretive nefarious projects; a federal hog pen of gluttonous bureaucrats, politicians and corporatists feasting on the takings from taxpayers and on limitless debt laid to future taxpayers. The yards-long list of federal outrages and excesses cannot fail to sicken and enrage.

Must We the People in our tens of millions confront the beast in its lair to voice our overflowing antipathy? Given its systemic corruption, brazen accretion of power and unconstitutional governance, what good can come from Washington, D.C.? Perhaps, then, the only question worth the asking should be: Which state will first secede? Which state will throw down the gauntlet and declare that liberty is more important than union?

Jim Taylor


PS  Californication is breaking up into two parts.  It's coming.


Soon all of US will lose our comfortable lives so be brave.
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It's pretty frightening what's happening to the greatest country in the world, there will be consequences if those in power destroy this country imho.
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Quoted from IraRotterdam

As a child of the 'North' I was educated to believe the North was on the side of right in the Civil War.  Slavery was an abomination that will eventually lead to the destruction of America.  Now I find out the Civil War was over everything but slavery.  If that be true then I was lied to as a child.


Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

Georgia
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

South Carolina
The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

Mississippi
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery
-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

From their own Declaration of  Secession, it's pretty clear that the cause of the Civil War was slavery.  States Rights was the right they claimed to continue the practice of slavery.  Had slavery not been present in the south, there would have been no Secession.





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Over 500,000 people died during the civil war over slavery?  Very doubtful.  It was about money, power, and resources, not some moral disagreement about slavery and American social policy or equality.  Politicians often use tribalism when to galvinize support for a political ideal.  If the politicians needed to pander to slave owners for political support, they did.  


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Over 500,000 people died during the civil war over slavery?  Very doubtful.  It was about money, power, and resources, not some moral disagreement about slavery and American social policy or equality.  


Money, Power and Resources... In the pre war South, Slavery helped you get all three.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It's pretty frightening what's happening to the greatest country in the world, there will be consequences if those in power destroy this country imho.


While it's true that it is sad what is happening in these United States (a phrase that ironically wax changed at the same time of the Civil War), the fact is that we need to see The United States as what it is, a union of 50 separate countries which are all supposed to be making their own rules with the exception of a few issues, which are outlined in the Constitution.  We, the people, over the past 2 centuries have given up too much power to those at a level that they should not have it, and it needs to be brought back into control, but we can't because of the people that are actually in control, those who supposedly represent us.


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Kevin

I think your meant 57 states that is the O'Bama count.

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Quoted from IraRotterdam


Planet Of The Apes 'rerun'


I believe in less government, fewer governing entities.  Less is best.


I live in 'uppstate NY' that is anywhere but greater NYCity within state boundaries.


'Upstate' is a colony of the big rotten apple.  We have no representation, just Quisling sellouts.


As a child of the 'North' I was educated to believe the North was on the side of right in the Civil War.  Slavery was an abomination that will eventually lead to the destruction of America.  Now I find out the Civil War was over everything but slavery.  If that be true then I was lied to as a child.


The 'South' was right, the North was wrong.  Either way this country will be torn apart.  In the spirit of rebellion I suggest you read the following letter I lifted from WND site.


The world existed for uddles of years without an America, it will be like that sooner than one might expect.


"We who are about to die salute you" with a middle finger, that is America.


In a segment of Planet Of The Apes the Statue Of Liberty is found, face down in the sand.  The apes are here..


Which state will secede 1st?


Federally sponsored gunrunning to narco-gangsters in Mexico; institutionalized child molestation by federal TSA employees in airports; unelected federal "czars" inventing and enforcing national policy; a planted Manchurian candidate of hidden background occupying the Oval Office; a Homeland Security Department run by a Mussolini clone obsessed with retooling America into a nightmarish Orwellian police state; an EPA battle-axe who issues extralegal fiats that can bring down entire industries, raise prices skyward and throw countless thousands out of work; endless prosecution of undeclared unwinnable wars to sustain chaos, retaliation and fear; a shadow government within a government, accountable to no one, spending billions if not trillions on secretive nefarious projects; a federal hog pen of gluttonous bureaucrats, politicians and corporatists feasting on the takings from taxpayers and on limitless debt laid to future taxpayers. The yards-long list of federal outrages and excesses cannot fail to sicken and enrage.

Must We the People in our tens of millions confront the beast in its lair to voice our overflowing antipathy? Given its systemic corruption, brazen accretion of power and unconstitutional governance, what good can come from Washington, D.C.? Perhaps, then, the only question worth the asking should be: Which state will first secede? Which state will throw down the gauntlet and declare that liberty is more important than union?

Jim Taylor


PS  Californication is breaking up into two parts.  It's coming.


Soon all of US will lose our comfortable lives so be brave.


You MUST be a troll. That's the only explanation that makes sense.
Who else would cite a poorly spelled letter to Wing Nut Daily?

What in all of hell, is "uddles"?
I hate to hit you with all that elitist middle school graduate stuff, but I think the word that jackass was looking for, was "oodles".

The majority of that 'response' that you decided to quote, is factually inaccurate, but I guess he, using those big words, and lofty phrases that you don't remotely understand, impressed you.

You are the most overtly racist imbecile I've ever seen post here.

Reagan started the whole 'CZAR' thing with his abysmal failure that was known as "The War On DrugsTM" but it was tongue in cheek,(if you know what the word czar means) and they are only advisers.
They have no actual authority.

The Bush babies picked up, and ran with the concept, and appointed more 'czars' (highly paid friends) than you could shake a stick at.

"Manchurian Candidate"? Were you the kid I saw wearing a hockey helmet to Price Chopper yesterday?

Who's going to secede first?
That's a riot, because most of the politicians depending upon the mentally deficient to actually believe them are in states that receive far more federal dollars than they put in.
New York State, only receives$.83 of every dollar that we put in, whereas many red states net well over $1.50 for every dollar they put in.
Alaska gets $1.83 for every dollar they put in.
Yet Palin, the one with the completely empty  movie theaters showing her latest "work", wants to cite socialism as the downfall of The United States.

Hey TEXAS, good luck funding the interstate roads that commie bastard republican Eisenhower instituted.
Good luck with Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps as well.

Everything 'you' (I'm convinced you have no coherent thoughts of your own) are railing against were put in place by the repugnants.
It is their mission to make sure the country fails, so that they may take back power and rape us some more.

But hey, at least I found a fitting avatar for you, so there's something I guess.

http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr235/TommyymmoT/1307803901716.jpg


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Ooops, I forgot your new avatar.



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