[color=purple][/color]Now that the 'gay marriage' issue has been settled, we move on to the next agenda.
Everywhere in NYS, in every municipality where an elected or appointed official exist who can perform a marriage ceremony, he or she will be required to perform a 'gay marriage'. God help the official who declines. Law suits will follow.
Officials everywhere will have to 'swear' allegiance to the new order.
It is not exactly like becoming a Nazi or member of the Communist Party but the texture of it is the same.
Rainbows have replaced swastikas & the Red Flag. For now!
[color=purple][/color]Now that the 'gay marriage' issue has been settled, we move on to the next agenda.
Everywhere in NYS, in every municipality where an elected or appointed official exist who can perform a marriage ceremony, he or she will be required to perform a 'gay marriage'. God help the official who declines. Law suits will follow.
Officials everywhere will have to 'swear' allegiance to the new order.
It is not exactly like becoming a Nazi or member of the Communist Party but the texture of it is the same.
Rainbows have replaced swastikas & the Red Flag. For now!
Ira, You should check your facts before you make these huge assumptions. Much of the Republican opposition was to address this very question. Watch Senator Stephen Saland on the safeguards against lawsuits that you are posting about. The first 4 or 5 minutes of the video addresses your accusations.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
How sick is it, that in America we yearn for state recognition of a private marriage. The solution is - couples no longer apply for state marriage licenses. Keep your own records of the private ceremony, without state involvement. Let the statists have their state. We are in the final throws of American liberty as outlined by the founding fathers. The divisions between the Constitutionalists and Statists in America are too deep. The statists have TOO MUCH TO LOSE, they will never peacefully relinquish the power amassed over the past 100 years. Americans seeking the return of their liberties shouldn't be naive to think they will return easily, as so many are willing to give control over to the government. The state is unrelenting, they educate the children, and they will continue to use the fruits of our labor to repress us even more.
The new social order has been progressing for the better of century. The statist use the issue of gay marriage as a trojan horse to steal more liberties. The greater gay community doesn't realize they have given state control over their personal relationships, under the guise of equality.
How sick is it, that in America we yearn for state recognition of a private marriage. The solution is - couples no longer apply for state marriage licenses. Keep your own records of the private ceremony, without state involvement. Let the statists have their state. We are in the final throws of American liberty as outlined by the founding fathers. The divisions between the Constitutionalists and Statists in America are too deep. The statists have TOO MUCH TO LOSE, they will never peacefully relinquish the power amassed over the past 100 years. Americans seeking the return of their liberties shouldn't be naive to think they will return easily. The state is unrelenting, and they will use the fruits of our labor to repress us even more.
The new social order has been progressing for the better of century. The statist use the issue of gay marriage as a trojan horse to steal more liberties. The greater gay community doesn't realize they have given state control over their personal relationships, under the guise of equality.
I wonder if Cicero is married and if he has a Marriage License? Or is this a "do as I say, not as I do"?
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Ira, You should check your facts before you make these huge assumptions. Much of the Republican opposition was to address this very question. Watch Senator Stephen Saland on the safeguards against lawsuits that you are posting about. The first 4 or 5 minutes of the video addresses your accusations.
Wow! We passed a law allowing state licensed gay marriage in the name of equality, then in the same bill allowed those performing the marriages to discriminate who they are willing to marry using the standard of separate but equal. Gee, can clergy discriminate against interracial marriage? Very strange Bill.
I pledge allegence to my wife of the united...... oops wrong thread/topic or maybe Cicero are you weaving all this together somehow to illustrate general moral confusion of some sort ?
Gee, can clergy discriminate against interracial marriage? Very strange Bill.
Interesting that a Conservative would bring up that point...
46% of Mississippi Republicans Want Interracial Marriage Banned... (Something that might be possible if Ron Paul manages to repeal the Civil Rights Act of '64.)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The funny or sad thing about this whole thing, depending on how you look at it, is that in the 60's and 70's, the hippie movement was anti-establishment and anti-marriage and anti-government. The hippies were against 'government marriage'. They believed and DID stand in parks and commit their love to one another, and that was what they called 'marriage'.......PERIOD!! Hell, they were all for just 'living together' claiming that they didn't need a 'government licensed marriage' to be married!!!
Now today, the same hippie generation that was against 'government marriage' and government involvement in personal lives, are the ones that are bringing back, creating and passing laws in favor of all of those so called taboo laws and MORE!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Interesting that a Conservative would bring up that point...
46% of Mississippi Republicans Want Interracial Marriage Banned... (Something that might be possible if Ron Paul manages to repeal the Civil Rights Act of '64.)
What percentage of New York Democrats believe in discrimination of certain marriage based on sexual orientation? They just passed a bill that would allow for individuals certified to perform marriages to discriminate based on sexual orientation . Almost sounds like a violation of the 1964 civil rights act. What happened to equal protection? What a weird law New York passed. I wouldn't expect anything less. The ends justifies the means, and the Constitution may as well have been written on toilet paper.
Successful Marriages are not exactly a sure thing... Most Heterosexual marriages (more than half) end in divorce. Of those who don't get a divorce, many would get a divorce but continue in a terrible marriage because of the kids, finances, or religion. I can find no reliable statistics, but I'd guess that 1/4 of all couples are the classic "happily married" the rest are either divorced, miserable or both.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Interesting that a Conservative would bring up that point...
Why is it interesting? A law was just passed that allows individuals that are certified to issue state marriage licenses, to not issue the license if they oppose gay marriage. If the state recognizes gay marriage, how do they justify allowing people to discriminate? The law allows for legal discrimination. Similar to the separate but equal Jim Crow Laws after the Civll War.
Successful Marriages are not exactly a sure thing... Most Heterosexual marriages (more than half) end in divorce. Of those who don't get a divorce, many would get a divorce but continue in a terrible marriage because of the kids, finances, or religion. I can find no reliable statistics, but I'd guess that 1/4 of all couples are the classic "happily married" the rest are either divorced, miserable or both.
Based on you circumstantial evidence, I can see why gays want to marry.
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