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Box A Rox
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How many Swiss Tax Free Bank Accounts Do You Have???
(Wouldn't it be great if the Rich had to pay taxes on their savings just like the rest of us do? )

ZURICH (Reuters) - Swiss and U.S. authorities have held informal exploratory talks that touched on regularizing untaxed money held by wealthy Americans in secret Alpine accounts, a spokesman for a finance ministry office said.

U.S. officials have said they are investigating other banks after UBS paid $780 million in 2009 to settle tax evasion charges.

In an article on June 9, sources told Reuters the U.S. and Switzerland were in advanced talks on a multibillion dollar deal that would let several Swiss and European banks join a common settlement to avoid potential U.S. prosecution.

With state coffers strained by the financial crisis, Switzerland has come into the crosshairs of tax authorities in Italy, Britain and Germany, as well as the U.S., which all suspect their citizens of stashing money in Swiss accounts to avoid taxes.

In 2009 Berne agreed to hand over to Washington bank data relating to 4,450 clients of UBS, piercing a hole in Swiss bank secrecy laws.

The U.S. Department of Justice continues to go aggressively after U.S. citizens who have hidden assets abroad, with a senior U.S. Internal Revenue Service figure saying this month the authority was about to probe at least one bank.


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And why do you think the richest Americans go ahead and put their money into Swiss Banks?  Because the government of the US has continuously overtaxed the American public, something the founding fathers would be turning over in their graves about.  


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And why do you think the richest Americans go ahead and put their money into Swiss Banks?  Because the government of the US has continuously overtaxed the American public, something the founding fathers would be turning over in their graves about.  


OHHHHHH  I GET IT NOW!

If You're A Conservative, and Rich... IT'S OK TO CHEAT ON YOUR TAXES!
WOW!  I'd have switched from 'law abiding taxpayer' to being a 'Conservative Tax Cheat' long ago if I knew!

Thanks for the tip...   {Where is that damn party registration form when ya need one...}



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How dare Americans keep the money they earn.  If you think your money is yours, think again...The worlds governments are coming get you!!!

Tax evasion,,, as if money rightfully belongs to the government.


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How dare Americans keep the money they earn.  If you think your money is yours, think again...The worlds governments are coming get you!!!

Tax evasion,,, as if money rightfully belongs to the government.


All those years I thought it was the "Conservative Values"  that kept the Righties voting for bigots and haters... now I find out IT WAS ALL ABOUT THEIR TAX DOLLARS!
I was so blind!  How could I not see it?  If you're a Conservative, you just say "I DON'T BELIEVE IN TAXES" and you DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY!

Where is my accountant's number... I'm switching today!

No more paying my taxes to fund the military...
No more paying my taxes to build bridges or schools...
No more paying my taxes for anything... I DON'T HAVE TO PAY... CAUSE... I'M A CONSERVATIVE!!!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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No more paying my taxes to fund the military...
No more paying my taxes to build bridges or schools...
No more paying my taxes for anything... I DON'T HAVE TO PAY... CAUSE... I'M A CONSERVATIVE!!!


You left out:

-No more paying my taxes to give millions of dollars to multi billion dollar, international company General Electric
-No more paying my taxes to pay for somebody elses health care that chooses to drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, and use drugs.
-No more paying my taxes to pay for somebody elses heat when they have cable T.V., flat screen high def, multiple cell phones.
-No more paying my taxes to buy weapons to use in Libya's civil war
-No more paying my taxes to pay for public high schools football stadium and lights
-No more paying my taxes to pay for Abortions on demand
-No more paying my taxes to buy Auto Manufacturers

I can go on and on...


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In case you're wondering what conservatives believe that tax money SHOULD be spent on at the federal level, please review the Constitution, Article I, Section VIII, which I will provide to you.  

Anything else should be done by state or local governments.

Quoted Text
Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.



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You left out:

-No more paying my taxes to give millions of dollars to multi billion dollar, international company General Electric
-No more paying my taxes to pay for somebody elses health care that chooses to drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, and use drugs.
-No more paying my taxes to pay for somebody elses heat when they have cable T.V., flat screen high def, multiple cell phones.
-No more paying my taxes to buy weapons to use in Libya's civil war
-No more paying my taxes to pay for public high schools football stadium and lights
-No more paying my taxes to pay for Abortions on demand
-No more paying my taxes to buy Auto Manufacturers
I can go on and on...

Right Cicero!  I GET IT NOW!

No more taxes!  Just like the Conservative Patron Saint of Taxation, Leona Helmsley once said... "We Don't Pay Taxes... Only The Little People Pay Taxes"!  

Cicero and Kevin have set me straight... No more taxes for me!
I'm now A CONSERVATIVE... and as Leona said... We Don't Pay Taxes".

I was so foolish... so naive...
I actually thought that paying my taxes was a 'PATRIOTIC' thing to do.  I thought that "Supporting Our Troops" meant paying my fair share of taxes so the US military would have the latest and best weapons systems.  What a fool I was.  Screw em... I'm a Conservative... I don't have to pay for weapons systems!

I used to think that paying my fair share of taxes meant... helping to educate our kids... improving our infrastructure... insuring that the USA had safe water and food supplies...
Screw em!  I'm a Conservative... I'll get my water from France.  I'll let some poor sucker Democrat Patriot pay for my kids and grand kids education... Let the Liberals pay for our roads & bridges... not me.  I DON'T PAY TAXES ANY MORE CAUSE NOW I'M A CONSERVATIVE!

{Wow, this is great}



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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In case you're wondering what conservatives believe that tax money SHOULD be spent on at the federal level, please review the Constitution, Article I, Section VIII, which I will provide to you.  
Anything else should be done by state or local governments.

I get it Kevin.

We say the scam is valid because of some obscure bastardization of Article 1 Section8... SO COOL!
BUT
Don't tell too many people about this scam OK?  Suppose all Americans took advantage of this so called loophole... and NO AMERICANS PAID TAXES... Where would we be then?

We have to keep this Conservatives Don't Have to Pay Taxes Scam quiet... so everyone doesn't take advantage of it.  I mean if everyone didn't pay taxes, the government would shut down... the military would disband... water, roads, the dollar, my fantastic golf course... ALL THAT WOULD END!
So keep it quiet OK?  Keep it just between US CONSERVATIVES!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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You complain about military costs than your hero Obama starts new two "engagements" in Libya and Yemen.

     Instead of wasting your time on soak the rich/job creator schemes try identifying wasteful government programs and porkulus plans. Then you will hit paydirt.
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Right Cicero!  I GET IT NOW!

No more taxes!  Just like the Conservative Patron Saint of Taxation, Leona Helmsley once said... "We Don't Pay Taxes... Only The Little People Pay Taxes"!  

Cicero and Kevin have set me straight... No more taxes for me!
I'm now A CONSERVATIVE... and as Leona said... We Don't Pay Taxes".

I was so foolish... so naive...
I actually thought that paying my taxes was a 'PATRIOTIC' thing to do.  I thought that "Supporting Our Troops" meant paying my fair share of taxes so the US military would have the latest and best weapons systems.  What a fool I was.  Screw em... I'm a Conservative... I don't have to pay for weapons systems!

I used to think that paying my fair share of taxes meant... helping to educate our kids... improving our infrastructure... insuring that the USA had safe water and food supplies...Screw em!  I'm a Conservative... I'll get my water from France.  I'll let some poor sucker Democrat Patriot pay for my kids and grand kids education... Let the Liberals pay for our roads & bridges... not me.  I DON'T PAY TAXES ANY MORE CAUSE NOW I'M A CONSERVATIVE!

{Wow, this is great}



Apparently Box didn't read my prior post.  His posts get more and more wacky.  

Poor...Poor...Box...I highlighted one sentence that made me feel sad for Box.  He NEEDS government bureaucracies to make him feel safe.  He would not know how to identify clean water or safe food without the FDA.  He doesn't know how his grand children would be educated without the department of education.  How did we function as a nation before without these Federal Agencies?  We must have practically been a 3rd world nation.


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We have to keep this Conservatives Don't Have to Pay Taxes Scam quiet... so everyone doesn't take advantage of it.  I mean if everyone didn't pay taxes, the government would shut down... the military would disband... water, roads, the dollar, my fantastic golf course... ALL THAT WOULD END!
So keep it quiet OK?  Keep it just between US CONSERVATIVES!


Yeah...That's it...How do you say out  of one side of your mouth the U.S. is a republic and then on the other side claim that without the federal government to take care of things like roads, water, and golf courses, States would just fall apart?  It's very amusing to watch.


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Apparently Box didn't read my prior post.  His posts get more and more wacky.  

Poor...Poor...Box...I highlighted one sentence that made me feel sad for Box.  He NEEDS government bureaucracies to make him feel safe.  He would not know how to identify clean water or safe food without the FDA.  He doesn't know how his grand children would be educated without the department of education.  How did we function as a nation before without these Federal Agencies?  We must have practically been a 3rd world nation.


Screw my grandkids education... I'm a Conservative Now!  Let the liberals handle that problem.
I don't have to pay taxes now... I no longer care about the poor, the military or the government.

We're gonna elect Ron Paul and he'll get rid of the US Govt...

I'm so excited... I'm cashing in a CD that was going to pay my taxes... But now I'm a CONSERVATIVE and DON't Pay Taxes... so I'll spend that CD on Booze, loose women and steak!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Yeah...That's it...How do you say out  of one side of your mouth the U.S. is a republic and then on the other side claim that without the federal government to take care of things like roads, water, and golf courses, States would just fall apart?  It's very amusing to watch.


Republic??? That came from "LIBERAL" Box... Now I'm a Conservative and I DON'T PAY TAXES so...Republic, Democracy, Monarchy... who cares.  I Got mine Screw the rest of em... I'm Now A CONSERVATIVE NON TAXED INDIVIDUAL!
When this country falls apart, I'll still have all that tax dollars that I didn't have to pay and I'll move to England or Spain or somewhere else where the Rich Conservatives don't have to pay taxes.

Screw those patriots who pay their taxes... We've got article 1 section 8 or whatever it was so WE DON"T PAY!
Kevin & Cicero... I really mean this from the bottom of my heart.  When you told me that Conservatives really don't have to Pay Taxes, it changed my life.
THANK YOU!



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Screw my grandkids education... I'm a Conservative Now!  Let the liberals handle that problem.


You would never know how to educate your grandkids without the "rich" funding the Department of Education to tell you how.  No sense of teaching YOUR children how to be self sufficient and personal responsibility...NO of course not...You taught your children to hand your grandkids off to the state for the proper indoctrination, because obviously they know best.  All our smart people in government buried us $14 Trillion debt and on the verge of an economic collapse.  Why wouldn't I want them properlyl indoctrinated by the best and brightest.


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