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Box, is Malloy a friend or relative of yours?

Lib Talker: When Will Navy SEALs Take Out George W. Bush?

"So when does Seal Unit 6, or whatever it's called, drop in on George Bush? Bush was responsible for a lot more death, innocent death, than bin Laden. Wasn't he, or am I wrong here?," Liberal radio talk show host Mike Malloy said on his show Monday evening.

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http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....out_george_bush.html


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"Bush was responsible for more innocent death than Bin Laden" (in Iraq)... {From Cicero's Tape}

If Cicero were a young Iraqi, instead of a privileged Right Wing Conservative American, he would understand why it is that so many Muslims hate the USA and especially why they hate George Worst Bush.

If Cicero and I grew up in Iraq, instead of the USA, we'd probably both hate Bush and wish that we did have an opportunity to take out GWB for the  unnecessary deaths he caused  in our country.

Americans hate BinLaden for the 3000+ deaths he cause here...
Many Iraqi's hate GWB for the 100,000+ deaths he caused in Iraq.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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If Cicero and I grew up in Iraq, instead of the USA, we'd probably both hate Bush and wish that we did have an opportunity to take out GWB for the  unnecessary deaths he caused  in our country.


What if we grew up in Libya?  Who would we both hate?  I know,,,I know,,,BUSH!  Since Obama's Libya policy is "humanitarian" his collateral damage and dead children don't create more terrorists since his a Democrat.  Obama's mission in Libya is one of compassion since he's a Democrat.  I am beginning to understand.  A privileged American sitting behind a microphone wishing the death of a former president is a justifiable because he is able empathize with the Iraqis and Afghanis.  Murdering an unarmed man that could have been captured is now justice, capital punishment by NAVY SEAL without a trial is now OK.  I am coming around to see things your way...Killing at the directive of a Democrat isn't really killing at all, it's a form of compassion and justice.


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What if we grew up in Libya?  Who would we both hate?  I know,,,I know,,,BUSH!  Since Obama's Libya policy is "humanitarian" his collateral damage and dead children don't create more terrorists since his a Democrat.  Obama's mission in Libya is one of compassion since he's a Democrat.  I am beginning to understand.  .


No Cicero, you are NOT beginning to understand anything.  You are looking for an argument where one doesn't exist.

Did GWB invade a country...
Did Obama invade a country...

You have yet to understand just that fact, and won't understand anything till you come to grips with that part of the issue.

The unnecessary, optional invasion of Iraq, at a time when US forces were at war in Afghanistan is also what you DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Bush let Bin Laden go... to chase Iraqi oil.  AlQaeda was NOT in Iraq... Osama Bin Laden wasn't in Iraq, he was, at that time, probably in Afghanistan.  

You aren't attempting to understand... you are pushing an agenda that will vindicate GWB.  Understanding isn't even possible.



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Did GWB invade a country...

Yes, 2 times (Iraq and Afghanistan)


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Did Obama invade a country...

Yes, 2 times (Libya and Pakistan)

Your point?

Also, as long as we're saying about leaders who let OBL go, didn't Slick Willy have some meetings with him, or know exactly where he was after he was accused of some small thing like bombing the Twin Towers before?  Or some of the other strikes on U.S. troops?


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You aren't attempting to understand... you are pushing an agenda that will vindicate GWB.  Understanding isn't even possible.


No, maybe you haven't been reading ALL of my posts...I think Bush sucked as a president too.  I don't have a GWB agenda.  I'm not a Bush bot, I can say many of his policies sucked.  I can say the Patriot Act shouldn't have been renewed.  I can say the Department of Homeland Security is a joke.  See, it doesn't hurt me to say these things.  

Can you explain again to me the Libya mission?  Now I know we launched 112 cruise missiles the first day that obviously only killed the bad guys.  I know we oh sorry, I mean NATO killed Gadaffi's son and grandchildren in an assassination attempt.  Explain how attempted regime change for European oil interests I mean humanitarian interests, using U.S. bombers and cruise missiles are less offensive?  Oh yes, I remember our missiles and bombs are liberating bombs, freeing the people from Gadaffi the tyrannical dictator. Hmmm...What former president used the same evil dictator argument to bomb a foreign country?  I'm glad that the Libyans that have been oppressed by the Gadaffi regime are more understanding than the Iraqis oppressed under the Hussein regime.  

It's only been 2 1/2 years..America is now waging wars on three fronts, we'll see how how much blood is on Obama's hands at the end of his 4 years.  And please don't mistake this for an endorsement of GWB


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Also, as long as we're saying about leaders who let OBL go, didn't Slick Willy have some meetings with him, or know exactly where he was after he was accused of some small thing like bombing the Twin Towers before?  Or some of the other strikes on U.S. troops?


Yes and yes.

And lets not forget that the saudi's backed the terrorists and yet all presidents, past and present...kiss their a$$!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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No, maybe you haven't been reading ALL of my posts...I think Bush sucked as a president too.  I don't have a GWB agenda.  I'm not a Bush bot, I can say many of his policies sucked.  I can say the Patriot Act shouldn't have been renewed.  I can say the Department of Homeland Security is a joke.  See, it doesn't hurt me to say these things.  



I can admit that I had voters remorse after I voted for GWB. But now I see it really didn't matter.....they are all alike! The machine continues!

That's why this time around we need to get behind and support and vote for Ron Paul!!! HIs win would be the two party system's worse nightmare.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Yes, 2 times (Iraq and Afghanistan)



Yes, 2 times (Libya and Pakistan)

Your point?

Also, as long as we're saying about leaders who let OBL go, didn't Slick Willy have some meetings with him, or know exactly where he was after he was accused of some small thing like bombing the Twin Towers before?  Or some of the other strikes on U.S. troops?


Really Kevin?

US troops invaded Libya... I must have missed that.  How many troops??? It would probably take 10-20 thousand for starters right???  So how's the US Invasion of Libya going??? I haven't heard a word about any US invasion of Libya.

Us troops invaded Pakastan... I mist have missed that one too.  How many troops?  Pakistan is a nuke country with a strong standing army... much better equipped and trained than Libya... so probably many more than the 10-20 thousand that we'd need for Libya.

But, If you are talking about a NATO bombing mission instead of an INVASION, that's a different thing huh?
And if you're talking about a few helicopters and their air cover with less than 50 troops to get OBL... Is that your INVASION???

The Bush disaster in Iraq cost the lives of  4400 US troops and One Trillion Dollars... for NOTHING!  You have seen what one team of Navy SEALS can do... if Bushy was after Saddam, he could have done the same thing... but the Navy SEALS can't secure Iraq's Oil!



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011 On Pace To Be Deadliest Year So Far for U.S. Troops in Afghanistan
Tuesday, May 03, 2011
By Edwin Mora

(CNSNews.com) – The months leading up to the U.S. military’s daring and successful raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan were also the deadliest winter and early spring months for U.S. forces in Afghanistan since the beginning of the war in that country.

With 46 U.S. military personnel killed in Afghanistan in April, U.S. military fatalities in that country are currently on a pace to make 2011 the deadliest year of the war.

However, as of now, Presdent Barack Obama is expected to begin drawing down the number of U.S. troops deployed in the country in July.

Up until this year, January-April 2010 (with 106 U.S. military fatalities) was the deadliest January-April period in the now almost-10-year-long war. 2010 went on to become the deadliest year for U.S. forces in Afghanistan with a total of 497 U.S. troops killed during the year.

In January-April 2011, however, 117 U.S. military personal were killed in Afghanistan—11 more than during the same period last year.

From the outset of the war in October 2001 through April 2011, 1,475 U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan.

At least 905 of these troops have been killed in Afghanistan since President Barack Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009. That equals more than 60 percent of the 1,475 total -- and more than one U.S. soldier per day.
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Can you explain again to me the Libya mission?


Sources that are allegedly connected to the Norwegian defense department appeared to confirm that the country’s personnel and aircraft were involved in the attack on Easter Monday.  The Norwegian press claim that Norwegian fighter jets have been involved in bombing missions that have targeted the home of Libyan leader Colonel Gadhafi.

Not exactly Obama's war or invasion is it???



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Sources that are allegedly connected to the Norwegian defense department appeared to confirm that the country’s personnel and aircraft were involved in the attack on Easter Monday.  The Norwegian press claim that Norwegian fighter jets have been involved in bombing missions that have targeted the home of Libyan leader Colonel Gadhafi.

Not exactly Obama's war or invasion is it???



Oh...We're quoting alleged sources that appear to confirm now?  Since there is no link to the source, I am going to allege to confirm this source is BS.


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Really Kevin?

US troops invaded Libya... I must have missed that.  How many troops??? It would probably take 10-20 thousand for starters right???  So how's the US Invasion of Libya going??? I haven't heard a word about any US invasion of Libya.

Us troops invaded Pakastan... I mist have missed that one too.  How many troops?  Pakistan is a nuke country with a strong standing army... much better equipped and trained than Libya... so probably many more than the 10-20 thousand that we'd need for Libya.

But, If you are talking about a NATO bombing mission instead of an INVASION, that's a different thing huh?
And if you're talking about a few helicopters and their air cover with less than 50 troops to get OBL... Is that your INVASION???

The Bush disaster in Iraq cost the lives of  4400 US troops and One Trillion Dollars... for NOTHING!  You have seen what one team of Navy SEALS can do... if Bushy was after Saddam, he could have done the same thing... but the Navy SEALS can't secure Iraq's Oil!



An attack on a foreign nations soil is an attack on a foreign nations soil.  It doesn't mean we're storming the beaches like Normandy.  Things have changed since the World Wars.  It's no longer necessary for one soldier to be on the ground for one force to impart it's way on another.



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"Bush was responsible for more innocent death than Bin Laden" (in Iraq)... {From Cicero's Tape}

If Cicero were a young Iraqi, instead of a privileged Right Wing Conservative American, he would understand why it is that so many Muslims hate the USA and especially why they hate George Worst Bush.

If Cicero and I grew up in Iraq, instead of the USA, we'd probably both hate Bush and wish that we did have an opportunity to take out GWB for the  unnecessary deaths he caused  in our country.

Americans hate BinLaden for the 3000+ deaths he cause here...
Many Iraqi's hate GWB for the 100,000+ deaths he caused in Iraq.


How about Sadaams close to 1 million deaths?



"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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How about Sadaams close to 1 million deaths?


Americans hate BinLaden for the 3000+ deaths he cause here...
Many Iraqi's hate GWB for the 100,000+ deaths he caused in Iraq.

IT would appear that Tbird is comparing Saddam, Bin Laden and George Worst Bush...

I would agree there are some major similarities...



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