The Intellectual Dishonesty of Nancy Pelosi Peter Wehner 05.03.2011 - 9:40 AM
Here’s Nancy Pelosi from a press conference on September 7, 2006: [E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.
And here’s Nancy Pelosi yesterday: The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .
This devastating then-and-now comparison comes to us courtesy of John Hideraker of Power Line. It underscores the degree to which partisanship can ravage people’s fair-mindedness and, in the process, make them look like fools and hacks. Such things aren’t uncommon in politics—but what is rare is to see such intellectual dishonesty proven so conclusively.
~ Bush on Live Bin Laden: "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 "I am truly not that concerned about him." - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
~ Bush flippin and a floppin on dead Bin Laden: “This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001,”
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So, Box, you would agree, then, that Nancy Pelosi is just as wrong as GWB?
No, he would never do that...Pelosi - completely different...Just like executing an unarmed man is now ok. But when Bush was detaining terrorists, left wingers like Box wanted our soldiers to read them Miranda rights. Violating Geneva Convention is only for Republicans to follow...When Democrats execute an unarmed man - "JUSTICE".
Again, the delay in Boxys response is the need to check with the DNC first.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Pelosi is just a barbie botox cheerleading puppet with apparently no solid views of her own.
She and the obama camp has now joined the bush camp!! And is proud that we killed an unarmed man!! Capture was obviously not an option...no? But hell....let's not waterboard!! Just kill 'em!! Must be they thought OBL didn't have any credible information he could share if captured alive!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I think the real "intellectual dishonesty" is the right's willingness to credit Bush's policies for the downfall of Bin Laden, but not the downfall of the economy.
I am bewildered as to why we did not take him alive given that we obviously had the chance. It has become crystal clear that given the lies and conflicting statements coming out of the administration there is something more to the story. Capturing him alive would of been worth 1,000 times more. Imagine if they got Hitler alive if you are wondering why. The tribunal, being able to lock him up for 20 years incommunicado, parading him as our captive...what a waste of an opportunity. There would be NO DOUBT ever as to our victory. Yeah, hardheads will say "I don't want to have to pay to feed him for the rest of his life" blah blah blah. It would be terrifically more calculating to have him as our captive. All liberals and party schills will automatically disagree, and so will non thinking members of the populist right. You have to be able to see the creative possibilities to keeping him locked up in a 8x8 cell. Sadly I believe that in the end, our government doesn't see the bigger picture of how we could neuter terrorism. Now he will be their martyr forever.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
But when Bush was detaining terrorists, left wingers like Box wanted our soldiers to read them Miranda rights. Violating Geneva Convention is only for Republicans to follow...When Democrats execute an unarmed man - "JUSTICE".
~Is that what I wanted Cicero??? Really??? Miranda Rights??? Terrorists apprehended on US Soil should be subject to our laws, especially since they may be tried in civilian courts that are subject to those laws. The Miranda Law is part of that system. I'd hate to see a criminal (not a terrorist) go free because he was thought at his arrest to be a terrorist so not read his rights. Terrorists outside of the USA are not subject to the Miranda law so it doesn't apply. (But Cicero knew that)
~ I would assume that most of you (not Cicero of course) already know that the Geneva Convention PROTECTS AMERICAN TROOPS! So (other than Cicero) who is for getting rid of or not using a system that has protected our military???
Democrats executing an unarmed man??? Again Cicero has been watching too much Fox News and it's rotted his brain.
The US Military has the option to capture or kill in the field. Our military has probably killed hundreds or possibly thousands that were not taken prisoner but could have been for various reasons. An example... on the first day or few days of the Normandy invasion, prisoners were generally not taken by some units. There was no facility to deal with a large number of prisoners and taking resources away from the invasion force to handle prisoners might jeopardize the entire mission. Bin Laden is not the first 'hit' or will he be the last, however these instances are only used in special circumstances.
Cicero is so bummin from Obama's success, he can't enjoy the elimination of one of our worst enemies. Poor Cicero... the rest of the country is celebrating, and he is still waiting for GWB to some how be a success... (Maybe someone will find one of Bushy's WMD's and Cicero can join us in the celebration).
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So, Box, you would agree, then, that Nancy Pelosi is just as wrong as GWB?
If only that were true. Nope! Nancy may have been mistaken but it would take more than a few words to equal the total 8 year disaster of George Worst Bush. Nancy may have dabbled in being wrong... Bush made a career of it!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
OBL was unarmed..in as far as no gun, but the SEAL had no idea if he had explosives strapped to him just waiting to explode.. He dropped him as he should have..case closed. OBL supporters would have relished a final suicide bomb from their leader, I'm glad we didn't give him the chance.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
IMO, BinLaden should not have been taken alive. BinLaden in a US prison would eventually cost the lives of hundreds or thousands of innocents around the world who would die in failed hostage attempts to have BinLaden released. Killing BinLaden rather than taking him prisoner probably saved lives.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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