Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
SENIOR CENTER and THE FUTURE
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Rotterdam Politics  ›  SENIOR CENTER and THE FUTURE Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 32 Guests

SENIOR CENTER and THE FUTURE  This thread currently has 14,685 views. |
10 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 » Recommend Thread
marymagdelene1234
May 27, 2011, 5:03pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
1,200
Reputation
58.33%
Reputation Score
+7 / -5
Time Online
3 days 8 hours 33 minutes
Quoted from TippyCanoe

thx for the donation  - can you do more???
it would go a long way toward transparency
where to relocate them......

(1) - supervisors office behind the desk
(2) - comptrollers office behind the desk
(3) - assessors office - behind the desk to watch the assessment data entered
(4) - assessors clerks desk to watch the assessment data entered
(5) - assessors clerks desk to watch the assessment data entered
(6) - dpw - planning office
(7) - dpw - main desk
( - dpw - dept head office
(9) - main board room
(10) - main board rrom
(11) - main board rrom
(12) - agenda meeting rrom
(13) - agenda meeting room
(14) - police cheif's office
(15) - courtroom
(16) - courtroom

then put it all on the web, real time for public viewing
too bad you can't have sound........


How about a camera in EE's office to watch her read the paper,
hand out handicap tags to people w/o doctor notes, politic at
the window, etc.....Oh wait a minute, she doesn't do that anymore
because she hasn't been to work in over a year.....
Logged
Private Message Reply: 60 - 146
clubhouse
May 27, 2011, 5:07pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
779
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+4 / -2
Time Online
61 days 20 hours 4 minutes
Quoted from marymagdelene1234


How about a camera in EE's office to watch her read the paper,
hand out handicap tags to people w/o doctor notes, politic at
the window, etc.....Oh wait a minute, she doesn't do that anymore
because she hasn't been to work in over a year.....


EE who???
Logged
Private Message Reply: 61 - 146
bumblethru
May 29, 2011, 7:14am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Ran into FIVE folks who frequent the rottredam senior gossip center. After they told us 'all' the 'dirt', naming names etc. ........their assessment is............close the center, put sewers in and sell it for a profit!!! IF it must remain off the tax rolls....then offer it to the charter school or the vets for housing. YUP that's exactly what they said...TRUTH!!

OH....and these long time EE supports are no longer supporters! AND...these long time rems donators no longer will donate to rems!!!

So don't shoot the messenger here....just relaying the message.....k?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 62 - 146
bumblethru
May 29, 2011, 8:34am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
Found this on the rotterdam town website. Now look at Glenville's!!
http://www.townofglenville.org/Public_Documents/GlenvilleNY_senior/index

       
Quoted Text

http://www.rotterdamny.org/main/seniors.htm

Senior Center Activities for Tuesday
       5/31/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
       Computer class canceled
Exercise Class 10:00
Sewing Class 10:00 Jo not available Jun July August
Brain Aerobics 10:00

       Senior Center Activities for Wednesday
       6/1/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
       Ceramic Class 9:30
Advanced Osteo Exercise 10:00
Tole Painting 10:00
Aerobics 10:00
Blood Pressure Clinic 10:30-1130
Beginning & Intermediate Osteo 11:00
Bingo 1:00
Billiards 1:00-4:00

       Senior Center Activities for Thursday
       6/2/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
       Billiards 9:00-12:00 & 1:00-4:00
Beginning Italian Classes 9:00
Crafts 9:30
Aerobics 10:00
Intermediate Italian Class 10:00
Advanced Italian Class 11:00
Exercise Class 11:00
Quilters 1:00

       Senior Center Activities for Friday
       6/3/2011 | 8:00AM - 4:00PM
       Yoga 9:00
Advanced Osteo Exercise 10:00
Beginning & Intermediate Osteo 11:00
Computer Class 1:00-4:00
Billiards 1:00-4:00


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 63 - 146
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
May 29, 2011, 9:58pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from 612


DVR you are such a fan of Rotterdam do something for the seniors.  After this 75 - 85 yr. old group fades into the sunset--nobody is going to be coming to that center unless you begin to do what is necessary to help seniors age in place.  Rotterdam is looking at the next highest area for seniors to reside.
.



I happen to agree with you.  The town needs year-round programming that meets the needs of residents of ALL ages  -- not just youth who play team sports and the seniors who go to the senior center.  

 That is why the Vision 2020 Town Parks and Recreational Plan calls for developing the community programs to go along with the actual physical parks and multi-general community center.  We have really only just begun the community conversation on what is needed and what is wanted -- and the Parks and Recreation Commission will continue that conversation with town residents and develop more specific recommendations in the years ahead.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 64 - 146
bumblethru
May 30, 2011, 7:11am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
The vision for a community center should be directed at the jct. People already go there to see the Challenger's play and being that there will be a proposed future park........it should also be home to a community center. The jct is left out of everything that is 'community based'. In fact the community center should be incorporated with this proposed park......no? It's time for rotterdam to extend it's benefits to the jct.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 65 - 146
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
May 31, 2011, 10:28am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from bumblethru
The vision for a community center should be directed at the jct. People already go there to see the Challenger's play and being that there will be a proposed future park........it should also be home to a community center. The jct is left out of everything that is 'community based'. In fact the community center should be incorporated with this proposed park......no? It's time for rotterdam to extend it's benefits to the jct.


We haven't begun studying all of the possible sites for a community center -- my preference would be to build it on lands that the town already owns .. of course if anyone owns a nice piece of land and wants to donate it .. give me a call.

When it was announced that Woestina School would be closed -- the BOA Study Group discussed what potential uses that building could be used for .. and the suggestion that it be used as a community center did come up. However, the building is owned by the Schalmont School District and they apparently have other plans for the building.    My personal preference --- well .. I would have preferred that it be kept open as a school .. but since it can not continue as a school .. my next preference would be that it be sold for use as commercial/office space and be put on the tax rolls.  

I think the Woestina School building it is too far from the center of town to be a good site for a multi-generational community center.   The state canal corp lands are in a flood plain and that limits what can be built there .. and, again, it is too far from the center of town.  

My personal preference is to use the Curry Road Shopping Plaza for a new municipal center which would include a multi-generational community center --- the town owns the land .. there is 10 to 12 acres of land there.. more than enough to house the town hall, police department, justice court, highway department and the multi-generational community center.    There is even room to move ALL of the monuments from in front of town hall to that site .... and plenty of room for parking  --- and while we are at it .. set aside space to move the Rotterdam branch of the County Library there ------ have EVERYTHING in one place -- a true Town Center.  
Then ALL of the other town buildings  could be sold and put back on the tax rolls.    


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 66 - 146
boomer
May 31, 2011, 7:01pm Report to Moderator
Guest User
Yes but it is a brown field.  Also you have no leadership in the Senior Center.  Addiung MORE program at the senior center is a waste of time.  Rotterdam doesn't even enter into the conversation regarding the needs of seniors.  Rotterdam seniors don't even realize they are being sold short.  So give them a kitchen.  The group who would use it are dead already.  Their ranks are dwindling.  You have hangers-on like Lois Yunker and Louise Brass planning trips so they can go for free.  Who is helping the frail elderly in town?  Nobody.  Who is helping to plan the way for a livable community.  Nobody.  Who is representing Rotterdam at community meetings and committees where the conversation has already begun?  Nobody.  The senior center is in a sad state.  At least Diane Marco tried to do the right thing by the seniors.
Logged
E-mail Reply: 67 - 146
bumblethru
May 31, 2011, 7:54pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
I know many 'frail' folks from rotterdam that use the Office of the Aging and Catholic Charities for their needs. The rotterdam center is nothing more than a gossip center. Every single thing the gossip center offers, can be obtained anywhere and it won't cost the taxpayers a dime!!!

Either sell it and put it back on the tax rolls or offer it to the Vets for housing or the Charter school.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 68 - 146
GrahamBonnet
May 31, 2011, 8:12pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes


We haven't begun studying all of the possible sites for a community center -- my preference would be to build it on lands that the town already owns .. of course if anyone owns a nice piece of land and wants to donate it .. give me a call.

When it was announced that Woestina School would be closed -- the BOA Study Group discussed what potential uses that building could be used for .. and the suggestion that it be used as a community center did come up. However, the building is owned by the Schalmont School District and they apparently have other plans for the building.    My personal preference --- well .. I would have preferred that it be kept open as a school .. but since it can not continue as a school .. my next preference would be that it be sold for use as commercial/office space and be put on the tax rolls.  

I think the Woestina School building it is too far from the center of town to be a good site for a multi-generational community center.   The state canal corp lands are in a flood plain and that limits what can be built there .. and, again, it is too far from the center of town.  

My personal preference is to use the Curry Road Shopping Plaza for a new municipal center which would include a multi-generational community center --- the town owns the land .. there is 10 to 12 acres of land there.. more than enough to house the town hall, police department, justice court, highway department and the multi-generational community center.    There is even room to move ALL of the monuments from in front of town hall to that site .... and plenty of room for parking  --- and while we are at it .. set aside space to move the Rotterdam branch of the County Library there ------ have EVERYTHING in one place -- a true Town Center.  
Then ALL of the other town buildings  could be sold and put back on the tax rolls.    


Now there is a 30 million dollar pipe dream as a monument to government largess and a giant bootlick to the unions!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 69 - 146
bumblethru
May 31, 2011, 8:24pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes



I happen to agree with you.  The town needs year-round programming that meets the needs of residents of ALL ages  -- not just youth who play team sports and the seniors who go to the senior center.  

 That is why the Vision 2020 Town Parks and Recreational Plan calls for developing the community programs to go along with the actual physical parks and multi-general community center.  We have really only just begun the community conversation on what is needed and what is wanted -- and the Parks and Recreation Commission will continue that conversation with town residents and develop more specific recommendations in the years ahead.


I don't think this is what boomer was talking about. If I'm reading boomer correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, she is talking about the frail elderly. The ones who can't drive anymore, needs rides to doctors, needs help with cooking or cleaning, maybe even home bound........etc....

Your assessment is far different than boomers. You are proposing a 'recreational facility' for able bodied folks, young and old to attend. I don't think those are the folks boomer is referring to.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 70 - 146
benny salami
June 1, 2011, 6:26am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
8,861
Reputation
68.97%
Reputation Score
+20 / -9
Time Online
132 days 23 hours 49 minutes
A multi generational community center? A multi modal bike path? Just what the taxpayer needs. Take prime commercial property on Curry Road permanently off the tax rolls while hurting local taxpaying health clubs.

     NEWSFLASH -we are in a recession and residents are struggling to pay exploding town/County taxes because of the working together idiots. The town should form a new commission-of business people not DEM lobs to examine areas to cut costs and consolidate services. Everything with the current DEM crew are lame attempts to add fixed costs and increase town payroll.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 71 - 146
GrahamBonnet
June 1, 2011, 7:23am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes
Ron reminds me of people who, although in debt for triple their net worth, go out and buy a 45 foot speed boat or build a built in pool in their back yard simply because "they can't afford not to..."

It makes perfect sense (to someone incompetent in matters of self-sufficiency.)


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 72 - 146
benny salami
June 1, 2011, 8:45am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
8,861
Reputation
68.97%
Reputation Score
+20 / -9
Time Online
132 days 23 hours 49 minutes
When in a hole-stop digging. Or better yet clean out the TH barn.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 73 - 146
Yossi
June 1, 2011, 12:26pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
550
Time Online
15 days 4 hours 40 minutes
Actually n Albany that is exactly the plan--a multi-generational senior Center.  All folks support it.  However, the problem is Senior Services of Albany that seems to be self-imploding.  Lousy leadership there.  Too bad because Ann DiSarro of Schenectady built that place and continues to be a force in the world of senior issues.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 74 - 146
10 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 » Recommend Thread
|


Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread