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April 23, 2011, 8:42am Report to Moderator
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Losing? If one life is saved, we've all won.

I guess the answer to my latest question is "not much" - and my previous question still goes unanswered.
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Moble terminal  you did not pay attention in biology 101- read up  a little more and get back to us with a definition of life- not your personal definition- because that doesn't mean diddly squat  and  you quoting scripture out of context ? is wrong-


Biology clearly states life begins at conception.  The biology definition of life would further support the pro life people not the pro death people.  


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Moble terminal  you did not pay attention in biology 101- read up  a little more and get back to us with a definition of life- not your personal definition- because that doesn't mean diddly squat  and  you quoting scripture out of context ? is wrong-



http://www.clinicquotes.com/site/story.php?id=28

Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974

"In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun."

Once again, continously, Sombody=Fail
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Biology clearly states life begins at conception.  The biology definition of life would further support the pro life people not the pro death people.  


Life begins at conception?  It would appear that MT is missing something.
The Human Sperm is ALIVE, Right?
So human sperm is alive BEFORE SEX, BEFORE CONCEPTION, (but MT is already lost.)

If HUMAN SPERM IS ALIVE BEFORE CONCEPTION... Is masturbation Murder??? (Of course not)
If HUMAN SPERM JOINS WITH HUMAN EGG at CONCEPTION... IS abortion them  Murder???(Again, of course not)

Life begins at Conception is a Right Wing catch all that fits their agenda... doesn't make sense, but it sounds good!

Is cancer human life??? YUP!  IS an appendix human tissue... YES of course it is.  IS human Sperm human life... Again yes.  Boring huh?
So why is it that all of a sudden, normally reasonable people will consider a human sperm and a human egg... a blob of cells as a human PERSON?  Ridiculous huh?





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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http://www.clinicquotes.com/site/story.php?id=28

Kaluger, G., and Kaluger, M., Human Development: The Span of Life, page 28-29, The C.V. Mosby Co., St. Louis, 1974

"In that fraction of a second when the chromosomes form pairs, the sex of the new child will be determined, hereditary characteristics received from each parent will be set, and a new life will have begun."

Once again, continously, Sombody=Fail


You and Cicero clearly refuse to pick up the most basic biology text= willful ignorance . You keep posting your personal definitions of life, pretending to know science  ( at least basic biology ) , putting forth a political agenda disguised a a religious truth- sick man ! you need to get your facts straight-

LIFE  is certainly sacred


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This issue should be left up to the states


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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You and Cicero clearly refuse to pick up the most basic biology text= willful ignorance . You keep posting your personal definitions of life, pretending to know science  ( at least basic biology ) , putting forth a political agenda disguised a a religious truth- sick man ! you need to get your facts straight-

LIFE  is certainly sacred


Personal definitions of life?  Are you that much of a failure you can't read? I posted >30 examples of scientific fact that life begins at conception/fertilization.

One thing we agree on, life IS sacred.
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Personal definitions of life?  Are you that much of a failure you can't read? I posted >30 examples of scientific fact that life begins at conception/fertilization.

One thing we agree on, life IS sacred.


You post nothing of the sort- no definitions of life - you cut and paste quotes from doctors talking about 'life '?  Im telling you man find you self a 3rd grade biology text and start reading.- it will be a sobering experience.

The religionists and philosophical definitions of life may not necessarily be scientific.


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The ole reliable science argument.

Great scientific minds of their time.  Steering public opinion as the scientific authorities.


Benjamin Rush, Alexander Thomas, Samuell Sillen,  Samuel A. Cartwright, Josiah Clark Nott, George Robins Gliddon, Robert Knox, Samuel George Morton.


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One thing we agree on, life IS sacred.


SNAP goes the mousetrap...
MMM!  Porterhouse Steak!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The government will never reverse Roe vs Wade. It became popular when they thought that it would be a population control issue for the blacks! And since the percentage of abortions is higher in the black community, the rule will stay. The government just can't continue to support black women having 7-10 kids by different absentee fathers......so.........MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

It's cheaper to abort them than to feed and clothe 'em for life!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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The ole reliable science argument.

Great scientific minds of their time.  Steering public opinion as the scientific authorities.


Benjamin Rush, Alexander Thomas, Samuell Sillen,  Samuel A. Cartwright, Josiah Clark Nott, George Robins Gliddon, Robert Knox, Samuel George Morton.


Galileo Galilei ?

but ultimately this  is machismo politics- making it sound like a spiritual value of some kind.  Most woman are put off by this machismo bulsh1t- the female voice here is virtually silent- wow .


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the female voice here is virtually silent- wow .



Dunno about that, you and Dunkocrat are doing a pretty good job forgetting you have a Y Chromosome

But then again, I'm not surprised.


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Life is sacred.  If you feel that way then it should apply across the board.  No Death Penalty because life is sacred.

Roe vs. Wade is settled law.  

"Everyone knows that life begins when the last kid leaves the house and the dog dies." (Rabbi Palti Silton)
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if one has 5 children and little food then having an abortion to save food to feed the rest rules
if you and I are the only 2 people left (that we know of) and there is 1 apple, you can bet I would kill you for it

life IS sacred but only the one you have control over. letting the government decide what you have control over in such a personal matter as such insidiouly removes
one's ability to survive and thrive.

so if keeping YOUR conception to full personhood is your goal, then in your sacred life, by all means do that and if that keeps your mind free of guilt, go ahead
but, you dont need the government to allow you to do this, it's YOUR choice.

when the government says you have to keep it, they will also take it.........what I have read is that 'god' gives it(free will) to you and 'god' doesn't take it back


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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