Quoted from bumblethru

But didn't ND add the proposed 2011 collected als $$$$ to the budget? And didn't she say that it would cover the attorney expenses that they hired at the midnight hour?

So now there is NO als money coming into the rotterdam coffers. And you can be that rotterdam taxes will be increased next year to cover the short fall and ND will be blamed for it.

So instead of kissing FDG's a$$, why isn't she screaming for the contract so they can start collecting the als $$$$?

Only in rotterdam!!!!!! Poor bastards!

Yes BT...ND included a projected 100K in the amended budget...and it looks like it was a safe one, given the estimated losses in the
first quarter of this year....but that has been one of the motives in delaying the ems contract issue...WC, TJ and, originally FDG were
trying to derail that budget by prolonging the ems issue with the hope there would be a shortfall...nevermind they are doing this at
the expense of the residents. ND understands the critical need to resolve the issue and I have reason to believe that FDG may
finally be getting it too...you conveniently forget that ND needs two supporting votes to move this agenda...or any other.

If there is any tax increase imposed next year it will have nothing to do with ALS or ND...the Town has NEVER collected any ALS
money...the only reason this is now part of the discussion is because of the recent revelations about REMS keeping all of that
money...no one wanted to even address it when this tax district nightmare started....when the no-brainer private option offered
from the beginning included ALS reimbursement....everyone who knew anything about it, which wasn't many back then, had to
just assume that, unbelievably, the ALS revenue was foolishly being forfeited in favor of moving forward with a tax scheme...while
it is anyone's guess as to how long REMS and their formerly volunteer squads were doing the same....does anyone believe that
REMS just suddenly realized they could collect this money under the radar? Some predecessor or another must have known the
process well enough to carry this out...and made sure the next knew how to carry on.

Quoted from gadfly

If there is any tax increase imposed next year it will have nothing to do with ALS or ND...the Town has NEVER collected any ALS
money...

Why would you write and pass a budget that reflect funds that were NEVER collected?  In a conservative budget, wouldn't you air on the side of caution and not speculate on uncollected funds?  

Quoted Text

does anyone believe that
REMS just suddenly realized they could collect this money under the radar? Some predecessor or another must have known the
process well enough to carry this out...and made sure the next knew how to carry on.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!!

1. inept elected
2. crooks elected

Quoted from CICERO

Why would you write and pass a budget that reflect funds that were NEVER collected?  In a conservative budget, wouldn't you air on the side of caution and not speculate on uncollected funds?  

Because we have always known the potential for ALS reimbursement...which has steadily risen over the years since the tax
discussion began....which was when this potential income was first made known, through Mohawk's original proposal...but
only now has REMS come forth with a tax free offer that includes ALS reimbursement because it is central to the ems contract
they now have to fight for...without an agreement to reimburse the Town they would have no chance of landing that contract.

But as I have consistently stated, IMO any consideration for a BLS contract with REMS should have been suspended based
on the ALS scam alone...if their tax scheme and disturbing history wasn't enough...and certainly should have ended when
they violated the specifically stated RFP rules that prohibited any marketing in these proposals...not that REMS submitted
anything that resembles a proposal...it's more like a gigantic sob story.

A $100K projection is a conservative estimate for revenue that now WILL be collected which, again, based on the reported
amount lost in the single month of March alone was somewhere in the area of $20K...and these figures will likely
fluctuate...but projected revenues from a variety of sources are commonly included in municipal budgets.  

yes.....and 'potentially' taxes go up....ALL THE TIME....

I'm being potentially burdened.....

show me the COLA

Also no mention of the Charter School.  Saw those people looking at the school yesterday.  My neighbor went over and asked who they were.  Of course, another Charter School nightmare ruining our neighborhood.  We are going to need some help to stop this people.  This is enough to run residents right out of the town.  How are they going to pay to heat this building for 150 kids?  Wow!  Taxpayers again. How about paying the bank millions?  Taxpayers again.  Aren't there schools in Shalmont that are closing?  I'm sure these schools are in a lot better condition then the Draper School is.  Considering it has been empty for a couple of years and a lot of the building has been vandalized.  The windows are broken and all need to be replaced.  What the hell are they thinking?  We were told the zoning was changed so that a school could not occupy that building again.  Oh that's right.  Wouldn't put this school in the elitists part of town. Just us poor folk get to put up with this crap.

Taxpayers pay for everything in public schools...charters do it with about 2/3 of the funding per pupil.

This meeting was toooooo much

We passed resolutions we did not understand

Mr Deloreno played past town attorney

We has a new clerk of the board

Kelly was calm cool and collected and didnot speak a word on ALS

And

We heard that cats without owners have more rights than foreign diplomats

What a joke!!! Apparently the applicant and the Town Planner made the determination on the petition.  Mr DeLorenzo apparently runs this town and the town board has no problem taking their orders from him!  This is an illegal zone change, they know it is illegal, they just don't care.  Apparently it's perfectly fine to ignore the town code and zoning laws, but the residents need to interpret
the ever changing requirements of a petition and complete their task to perfection.  They shouldn't have needed a petition in the first place!!!  Someone needs to tell Mr. Calder to educate himself - it is his responsibiltiy to make a decision on a resolution based on knowledge of facts, not what he is told to do.  DO YOUR FREAKIN JOB!!!  

That kind of stuff has been going on in Rotterdam for 50 years, they make deals with a wink and a nod or a backroom handshake and the taxpayer be damned.

7:00 - All here
Cindy Dumar- acting clerk of the board
7:05 Prayerl
ROLL CALL – SKIPPED
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
SUPERVISOR’S REPORT
Congratulations Mohonasen Varsity Basketball Team  - they will be late and we will honor them when they arrive
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR FOR PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS
PERSONNEL:
none
Res. No.

166.11 Appoint William Cook of Rotterdam, New York as a member of the Town of Rotterdam Ethics Board to fill the unfinished term of Anthony Cristello, expiring December 31, 2013.
Bob -Y
Nicki -N
Matt - Y
Wayne - Y
FDG -Y

167.11 Appoint Nancie Askew of 772 Coplon Road, Rotterdam, New York12306 be and she is hereby reinstated to the position of Senior Typist, fulltime, temporary until July 13, 2011, with no employee benefits at an hourly rate of $12.00 per hour.
Nicki - molly is out sick and one other needs surgery
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. To discuss the allowance for land clearing activities which would entail clearing approximately 1.5 acres of property and grading approximately 0.95 acres of land. This vacant property is known as Tax Parcel #48.00-2- 25 and is located on the southwest side of Old River Road approximately 1150 feet east of the intersection with West Campbell Road, Rotterdam, NY 12306.

Dave bancaini - the land is zoned industrial but is it is in area 2 of the aquifer.  This is in the aquifer and 2 feet below the 100year flood zone.  Water and sewer - is available via long pond extension

FDG - that is right next to the tower

Godlewski - how far from the wells is it
With 3-5ft of fill water will want to go somewhere else

FDG - that floods every year since I was a kid

Godlewski - you are asking us to approve the fill making this a -industrial capable property - and remember what happened at long pond

Fdg - that land was 15' higher and when I was 7 the top soil was removed from there

Wayne - let them get started

Matt and Nicki -if no one wants to speak let's close
Public Hearing Closed

PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS

Ms Lawler
Speaking on Resolutions -172,173,174 - this project was considered to be one project - now it is 2
What is the legal interpretation as to why

Town attorney - the project was one – on this project you need 20 percent of the neighbors of the whole parcels If it was separate you would need more
Were the signers owners
Within 100' and touching property
The end result was less than 20% based on the   "Amount of land" not property owners

Res. No.

168.11 Authorize the Supervisor to execute a renewal contract with Catholic Charities of Schenectady County, 818 Union Street, Schenectady, New York 12308, in the amount of Three Thousand and 00/100 ($3,000.00)Dollars for implementation of the Nutrition Program for the Elderly for the year 2011.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

169.11 Authorize the Supervisor to execute a renewal contract with Catholic Charities of Schenectady County, 818 Union Street, Schenectady, New York 12308, in the amount of Five Hundred and 00/100 ($500.00) Dollars for implementation of the Transportation Program in conjunction with the Nutrition Program for the Elderly for the year 2011.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

170.11 Authorize the Supervisor to accept an easement from Suzette Amrock for a proposed turnabout at the westerly end of Catherine Street in accordance with the minor subdivision of lands of Suzette Amrock, 2131 Hamburg Street, Rotterdam, NY.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

171.11 Authorize the Comptroller to Increase Highway Fund (DA-599) Appropriated Fund Balance and Highway Fund Appropriations (DA-960- 5110.47100) by up to $30,000.00 to cover the payment of Bluebird Lane/Horizon Blvd. drainage project expenses in the 2011 budget.

Nicki - I had a lot of ??? At the last meeting it was  $47,000 which Mr Greismer said this was the last of the bills and now……2 bills from 2009 show up -
FDG - right it is 2 years later and somebody forgot to send the bill out usually if somebody doesn't bill me I call them
Nicki - to the attorney can we look at language to limit the payment terms and gentleman agreement - I want to pay the bills but from this point forward limit the terms and limit the gentlemen’s agreements
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

172.11 Adopt the determination and recommendation from the attorneys for the Town, that a super majority vote is not required relative to the application to amend Chapter 270 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled ZONING for a Change of Zone request on approximately 2.735 acres from Single Family Residential (R-1) and Two Family Residential (R-2) to Multi-Family Residential (R-3), on Tax Map Number 58.8-9-17.11 & 58.8-9-4.1 located at 1066 Curry Road and 1113 Floral Avenue, Rotterdam, New York, 12306, as the protest petitions do not satisfy the requirements of Rotterdam Town Code section 270-174 or Town Law section 265.

Resolution read in long form - UGH
Board light heartedly suggests reading the less formal(short) resolutions

Interruption for Proclamation on for the mohon varsity basketball team
Section 2 class A champs  
Record - 17-5 overall    13-3 league
Names read
Congrats and handshakes
This win is the first time in 19 years
Town presented with a plaque of the team and record
Team - departs

Back to resolution172.11
time is 7:55
Bob godlewski -we have already approved the zone change - the only reason this resolution is here is to validate the town attorneys decision on a super majority - I don't think this resolution is not necessary

Nicki the passed  resolution.  The engineer states - no work can be done   Now we only have 17.5 percent vs 20 %
Attorney - This is a procedural resolution to set a review of the process
FDG- we approved the zone changes
Confusion on the original zone change request
Tom D -one petition protested all the  parcels
We are here for the seqra and the local law
Matt- I agree we don't need 172.11

Attorney - This is to validate the paper work

Matt - I make a motion to withdraw 172.11 - passed by all

173.11 Adopt and authorize Supervisor to sign Negative Declaration dated April 27, 2011 for a Change of Zone request on approximately 2.735 acres from  Single Family Residential (R-1) and Two Family Residential (R-2) to Multi-Family Residential (R-3), on Tax Map Number 58.8-9-17.11 & 58.8-9-4.1 located at 1066 Curry Road and 1113 Floral Avenue, Rotterdam, New York, 12306.
1st Bob
2nd Fdg
Bob Y
Nicki N
Matt N
Wayne Y
FDG - Y

174.11 Adopt Local Law No. SIX (6) of the Year 2011 for the following purpose:  Amend the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map of the Town of Rotterdam for a Change of Zone request on approximately 2.735 acres from Single Family Residential (R-1) and Two Family Residential (R-2) to Multi-Family Residential (R-3), on Tax Map Number 58.8-9-17.11 & 58.8-9-4.1 located at 1066 Curry Road and. 1113 Floral Avenue, Rotterdam, New York, 12306.  Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of April 28, 2010 Public Hearing was held at the Town Board meeting of May 12, 2010 and June 9, 2010

Bob -Y
Nicki -N
Matt -N
Wayne -Y
FDG -Y

175.11 Adopt and authorize Supervisor to sign Negative Declaration dated April 27, 2011 for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Change of Zone request on approximately 36,275 square feet of property from Single Family Residential (R-1) to Retail Business (B-1), on a portion of Tax Map Number 59.18-4-26.2 and all of 59.18-4-26.1 located at 2984 Hamburg Street, Schenectady, New York, 12306.

Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

176.11 Adopt Local Law No. SEVEN (7) of the Year 2011 for the following purpose: Amend the Comprehensive Plan, Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map of the Town of Rotterdam for on approximately 36,275 square feet of property from Single Family Residential (R-1) to Retail Business (B-1), on a portion of Tax Map Number 59.18-4-26.2 and all of 59.18-4-26.1 located at. 2984 Hamburg Street, Schenectady, New York, 12306. Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of March 23, 2011. Public Hearing was held at the Town Board meeting of April 13, 2011.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

177.11 Authorize the Supervisor to execute documents to grant an easement across town property to allow access and utility installation to property known as a portion of Tax Map Parcel #59.16-1-1 located off Mercer Avenue and abutting Interstate 890 to the west, the lands of NY Central Railroad to the north, and the lands of Niagara Mohawk to the east.

Bob – Y
Nicki – N
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

178.11 Authorize the Supervisor to accept the proposal submitted on April 25, 2011 by Metro Ford Sales, Inc. for the purchase of one (1) 2011 Ford Taurus SEL Sedan for the Rotterdam Police Department.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

179.11 To determine that pursuant to State Environmental Quality Review Act (“SEQRA”) regulations, 6 NYCRR Part 617, proposed Local Law No. Eight ( of the year 2011 constitutes a Type II action as defined therein and does not require any environmental review, determination, or procedure.

Bob- ????? I do not understand theis resolution
Attorney -This has to do with the training received by the town

Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y – I don’t understand this my self
FDG -Y

180.11 Adopt Local Law No. Eight ( of the Year 2011 for the following purpose: To amend Chapter 270, Article XX, of the Town Code of the Town of Rotterdam to provide for mandatory training and attendance at regularly scheduled meetings for members of the zoning board of appeals and planning commission. Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of March 23, 2011. Public Hearing was held at the Town Board meeting of April 13, 2011.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

181.11 Authorize the Supervisor to execute an Inter municipal Agreement for dispatching fire and emergency medical calls with the Town of Duanesburg for an annual fee of $10,000, subject to the approval of the Town Board of Duanesburg.

Nicki- this is just a renewal
Bob - duanesburg is pleased with the service
Wayne - because of the economy are we comfortable with the 10G's
Nicki- the chief is happy with
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

182.11 To declare Saturday, August 6, 2011 as Rotterdam Community Fun Day and to authorize the Parks & Recreation Commission to hold a Rotterdam Community Fun Day event at Woestina Park from 11 A.M. to 7 P.M. that day.

Ron Severson- From our Parks workshops our town needs to do community building
We started with Aug 13 - our lady queen of peace has a festa that weekend so we moved the event to the 6th

Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y
CONSENT ITEMS:

Res. No

183.11

Budget transfers by the Town Comptroller to various accounts.
Bob – Y
Nicki – y
Matt – Y
Wayne – Y
FDG -Y

DISCUSSION ITEMS
COMMITTEE REPORTS

Matt Senior Moment
Again he speaks sooooooooooo Fast
Cooperstown trip june 15 50/person
May 13 senior prom _ at Mohon

Two weeks ago clean sweep we had 50 attendees
Troop 54 , Elementary School - RACC –THANK YOU
Ten cubic yards of waste from the 70’s

Wayne
Grant - 25K - marked patrol car
Grant was put in October

FDG- may 15th 1pm. Sunday MEMORIAL DEDICATION
PUBLIC COMMENT PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR

Ron severson - thank you for passing the sesolution
Tyler who was part of the team today is also the secratary of the parks commission

Dan lang - issue with stray cats - 20 cats - my neighbor started with 1 bowl and now it is 5 bowls and boxes of blanks
They are free range animals
If my dog was to sh*t on my lawn you would be pissed at me
But it is ok for cats and the owners are beyond reproach
I hope someone does not try to avoid a cat and hit a child
My neighbor denys owner ship
Cats have reached a level beyond foreign diplomats as we cannot send the cats home
AT THIS POINT LAUGHTER BREAKSOUT
Can we need a town ordnance stating if you feed them then you are the owner
At what point do we say enough ????????????????????

FDG - just call the  animal Officer

Bob - the cat was beat to death - code enforcement
Mr. Lang the code enforcer - says they(the cats) are no ones cats and they are like a squirrel with benefits
I can trap cats and bring them to the pound and get charged $20 each

Bob - we will need to have legal council on this
FDG – cracks a joke about cats having nine lives – very funny

Kelly (calm kelly)- I know what this guy is going thru
The cat population is overwhelming
The lic law on the books was not my preferred version - this should be addressed at the state level
The intention was to amend the town code
Feeders should be considered the owners
Cats are a public health issue
Fdg- is this gonna take long

(Per Resolution No. 444.06)
General Rules of Procedure for Public Hearings & Privilege of the Floor:
Each speaker will state his/her name and address for the record. To ensure each attendee has an equal and reasonable opportunity to address their concerns, he/she is afforded a maximum of four (4) minutes to address the Town Board.
MISCELLANEOUS
ADJOURNMENT
FRANCIS DEL GALLO, Supervisor

Quoted from TippyCanoe

7:00 - All here
Cindy Dumar- acting clerk of the board

I heard that EE called her to ask her to do the meeting because she was still out
"sick"...............very interesting.....

For the record,  I did not say that the Mohonasen student who is a member of the Parks Commission was a member of the basketball team.  
What I did say was that like the members of the basketball team - the young man from Mohonasen who serves on the Parks Commission represents his school well --- that all of these student reflect well on the job that the school is doing.

Quoted from marymagdelene1234

I heard that EE called her to ask her to do the meeting because she was still out
"sick"...............very interesting.....

EE personally made the telephone call?  If so, that must have been an interesting conversation...."how ya doing?"  Coming back anytime soon?"