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No retirement in 2012--he will be walking the grounds of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


He'll be walking around somewhere...but hopefully it won't be anywhere in this country....and if, God forbid, the electorate is stupid
enough to re-elect that communist, fortunately he will be neutered by Republican majorites in both houses of the legislature.
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BORN IN THE USA?
Hawaii slams door on birth certificates
2 days before Trump questions, no problem getting long-form document. Today, no way

Posted: April 26, 2011
9:56 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily

With billionaire and possible GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump ratcheting interest in Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth documentation to its highest level ever, the State of Hawaii is suddenly enforcing a policy that no one – not even the president of the United States – can obtain a copy of his own birth certificate from the state's Department of Health.

Although the policy of denying the public access to copies of long-form original hospital birth certificates was announced in 2001, it wasn't enforced for years. But with Trump's recent pointed questioning of the circumstances of Obama's birth – and whether he was even born in America – Hawaii officials have apparently determined that the long-overlooked state procedure now requires enforcement................>>>>................>>>>..............Read more: Hawaii slams door on birth certificates http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292053#ixzz1Kix3Cse7
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A great piece... FROM WORLD NET DAILY???
Ya gotta be kiddin right???
Why not an in depth story from Mad Magazine?

Google World Net Daily and you'll see just how twisted their reporting portrays the news:

On Sept 13th 2001 World Net Daily published a commentary saying:
~ "regarding  the moral depravity of America in general and New York in particular, asking whether, "God (has) raised up Shiite Islam as a sword against America."  
(Great source HUH?)  

Who reads World Net Daily??? BIRTHERS are their best customers:
~ "WorldNetDaily has emerged as a leading outlet publicizing conspiracy theories about Barack Obama's citizenship status, claiming that Obama is not a natural-born American citizen and is thus not eligible to serve as president. Such claims are considered unsubstantiated or debunked by most news sources.  

As posted earlier... Birthers will hear from "some source" that Obama wasn't born in the USA...(The source need not be credible) and they will take it as fact.  
(There are none so blind as those who will not see)





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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Nobody in their right mind would spend millions of dollars to legal staff to keep all their records sealed if there wasn't something in them that they don't want people to see.
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Nobody in their right mind would spend millions of dollars to legal staff to keep all their records sealed if there wasn't something in them that they don't want people to see.


Who is spending  "millions of dollars to legal staff to keep all their records sealed"???

Not Obama??? Not Hawaii???  Who?



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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lobalist cover-up hiding Obama’s past?
Wednesday, October 14th, 2009

By Mychal Massie, WorldNetDaily

Obama has kept more than his share of secrets

Barack Obama has spent (or had spent for him) between $1.8 million and $3.2 million in legal fees to keep his personal records secret. These include his birth certificate, his college records and all else that could provide more insight into his past.

But why? Who spends that kind of money to keep their records hidden unless they have something to hide? And if someone (especially a political figure, not to mention a sitting president) is willing to go to such lengths, it is reasonable to believe he has something to hide. It is reasonable to believe that whatever it is they are hiding would be damning if revealed. What could it be that Obama is so fearful of having revealed?

Consider the kind of power it takes to command such silence. Let’s face it – there is nothing not known that cannot be made known – Jimmy Hoffa’s resting place notwithstanding.

Let’s first start with what it takes to keep the cacophony of silence and complicit cover-up silent and covered up.
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cover-up hiding Obama’s past?
Wednesday, October 14th, 2009

By Mychal Massie, WorldNetDaily



Again, go up 4 posts... World Net Daily makes their living selling to Birthers.  The more they promote the lies, the more money they make.
World Net will feature Jerome Corsi (who is also making millions from Birthers who buy his Birther book) ...
The whole thing is a scam.

CNN has looked into this story time and time again and always came back with the same conclusion... The Birthers are full of crap.

See CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/04/14/explain.it.to.me.birthers.cnn
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0crpm14_XOs





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If the birth certificate issue is truly put to rest, and the label of "birther" cannot be used to discredit Obama's political opponents, what are they going to use?  I'm going to put my money on the label of racist.  Since MSNBC and PBS are already begining the racist narrative.  Already predicting "the most racist(presidential race) in the history of the republic".


http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....t_election_ever.html
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"I said over a year ago that this was going to be, this presidential race, Lawrence, was going to be the ugliest, the nastiest, the most divisive, and the most racist in the history of this Republic," PBS host Tavis Smiley said on MSNBC.


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Obama Birth Certificate Scam:

Factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


This Birther story isn't about where Barack Obama was born... The Birther story lives  because there is a whole group of people in America that refuse to believe that a Black Man is their President... There has to be some other reason that he is in the White House.


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Jeff Katz interview of Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom, Slom questions Obama hiding records, Why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees
Posted on April 6, 2011 by citizenwells| 74 Comments

Jeff Katz interview of Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom, Slom questions Obama hiding records, Why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

My friend Jeff Katz, former talk show host on WBT Radio in Charlotte and one of the few people in the media in NC asking questions about Obama in 2008, interviewed Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom. World Net Daily reported on the interview.

“The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate was interviewed on the radio this morning, explaining that while he believes Barack Obama was born in the Aloha State, he questions what might be on the original, long-form birth certificate that would prompt the president to go to such lengths to conceal it.
“I’m not a ‘birther,’” Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom told Jeff Katz of WXKS Radio in Boston, “and I followed this from the very beginning. At first I followed it with amusement, and then I got really concerned about it, because the question was if it was not just the birth certificate, but other records as well ? school records, academic records, work records ? why would anyone spend millions of dollars in legal fees, particularly someone in public office, particularly someone in the highest public office, to not make that information public?”"

“”There are different theories,” Slom continued. “One is that there is no birth certificate at all; I don’t think that’s true, I think there is a birth certificate. The second is there may be some very interesting information that the president does not want released, for example, who his father really is or what’s listed on the birth certificate.
“In any event, here is the president of the United States,” Slom said, “you’ve got to have [a birth certificate to present], why don’t we require that of the president?”"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=283713

“Recently, potential presidential candidate Donald Trump has also questioned why Obama has kept his records under lock and key, stating, “There’s something fishy about the whole thing,” and, “There’s something on that certificate that’s very bad for him.”
Slom referenced Trump after also explaining the difference between Hawaii’s official, long-form birth certificate and Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” posted online.
“We have two forms of the birth certificate,” Slom said. “One is the long-form, official certificate of live birth, and that’s the one that’s got all the data; and then there’s the short form, and that’s the one they’ve put up on the website ? but that doesn’t go into detail, doesn’t give you all the information.
“So it comes back to the same thing,” he concluded. “Why would anybody, let alone the president, spend all this money, all this time, all this effort, not to disclose the information? And of course, we can come up with several different possibilities, but as Donald Trump and others have said, gee, it would be so much simpler if he just disclosed it and we move on.”"
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Obama has NOT spent a dime on the Birther issue.


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Obama has NOT spent a dime on the Birther issue.


You KNOW that how?
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The Birthers...



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Who cares about where he was born, release all his college records, transcripts, and financial data pertaining to who funded his college tuition because it's not cheap to attend Harvard so who paid for it.
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