The National Transitional Council (Arabic: المجلس الوطني الإنتقالي, al-majlis al-waṭanī al-'intiqālī), sometimes known as the Transitional National Council,[1] the Interim National Council,[2] or the Libyan National Council, is a political body formed to represent Libya by anti-Gaddafi forces during the 2011 Libyan civil war against the regime of Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi. Its formation was announced in the city of Benghazi on 27 February 2011 and its intended purpose is to act as the "political face of the revolution". On 5 March 2011, the council issued a statement in which it declared itself to be the "only legitimate body representing the people of Libya and the Libyan state".[3][4][5]
YES CICERO, You don't have to keep proving me right on this issue. As I posted previously, the terms CIVIL WAR and REVOLUTION are often used as if they are one, but (see definition above) they are obviously not. In your post: ""political face of the revolution" You correctly cite a "REVOLUTION", not a civil war.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
As rebels take Tripoli, foreign powers are eyeing the prize of Libya's high quality crude oil.
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France's President Nicolas Sarkozy, like his counterparts in the UK, Italy, the US and other countries, is keen to garner oil contracts once a new government emerges in Libya [Reuters]
It looks like the more telling news on Libya has migrated to the business pages. With jubilant reporting of Gaddafi's imminent downfall seizing headlines, it's the financial pages that have the clinical analysis. So, for instance, it is in this section that the Independent reports a "dash for profit in the post-war Libya carve up".
Similarly, Reuters, under the headline, "Investors eye promise, pitfalls in post-Gaddafi Libya" noted that a new government in that country could "herald a bonanza for Western companies and investors".
Before Tripoli has completely fallen, before Gaddafi and his supporters have stepped down and before the blood dries on the bodies that have yet to be counted, Western powers are already eyeing up what they view us just rewards for the intervention.
There are no more illusions over how far NATO forces exceeded the UN security resolution that mandated its campaign. For months, NATO officials insisted it was operating within brief - an air campaign, designed to protect civilians under threat of attack. But now it is described as an "open secret" that NATO countries were operating undercover, on the ground.
Add to that the reluctance to broker a negotiated exit, the practice of advising, arming and training the rebels, and the spearheading of an escalation in violence and it looks like NATO's job morphed from protecting civilians to regime change.
Oil for regime change
And there's a reason for this sudden rush of honesty over its involvement. As alluded to by the Economist, each country's contribution to the NATO effort in Libya is expected to have some impact on how much of the spoils it gets in the looming post-war period.
The French Le Figaro newspaper is keen to talk up Libya as "Sarkozy's war", while the British Telegraph drops references to the involvement of British military and intelligence officers, including MI6 and the RAF.
Aiding the Libyan rebel forces of the National Transitional Council has created a debt of gratitude. In the context of responsibility for what happens next in Libya, an anonymous British official told the Economist that NATO's involvement in the Libyan uprising means that: "Now we own it."
As Reuters reports, "Western companies look well positioned as billions of dollars in oil exploration and construction contracts come up for grabs as part of the reconstruction effort."
Leaving aside the massive profits from the rebuilding that Libya is now going to need, there are vast oil spoils to distribute. The Libyan oil industry produced 1.6 million barrels a day prior to the war. The country is thought to have 46 billion barrels of reserves - the largest in Africa.
Regime Change in Iraq (George Worst Bush) ~$2-3 Trillion Dollars ~4474 American troops killed in the war ~100,000 US Wounded. Result: Regime change accomplished, all other objectives a failure.
Regime Change in Libya (Barack Hussein Obama) ~$1 Billion Dollars ~0 American Troops killed in the war ~No known US wounded Results: Regime change accomplished, other objectives, yet to be determined.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
what exactly are 'other objectives'? getting McDonalds and taco bell in there selling goat meat?
Senders obviously has forgotten the reason George Worst Bush went to war in Iraq in the first place... OIL
While Iraq shunned the USA with it's oil contracts (and who can blame them), Libya will remember who aided the rebellion and who put up the expertise and air power for the rebellion to succeed.
Libyan oil may be part of Americas future.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
no....that WAS my point.....why dont we drill at home?.....because....I cant afford your social security and you cant afford my services....so OFF we go across the planet to dig it up cheaper and where no one can watch.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The USA can't produce enough oil to fill it's own needs.
Conservatives love to point to US Oil Reserves... as if it were a real number.
Fact... The total estimated amount of oil in an oil reservoir, including both producible and non-producible oil, is called "oil in place". However, because of reservoir characteristics and limitations in petroleum extraction technologies, only a fraction of this oil can be brought to the surface, and it is only this producible fraction that is considered to be reserves.
With out foreign oil... the USA stops!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Regime Change in Iraq (George Worst Bush) ~$2-3 Trillion Dollars ~4474 American troops killed in the war ~100,000 US Wounded. Result: Regime change accomplished, all other objectives a failure.
Regime Change in Libya (Barack Hussein Obama) ~$1 Billion Dollars ~0 American Troops killed in the war ~No known US wounded Results: Regime change accomplished, other objectives, yet to be determined.
So you approve of the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and regime change for corporate interests...You just think Bush didn't do it as economically and efficiently as Obama?
You're a real principled person Box...
Maybe Obama can destroy Syria for $750 Million. What-a-bargain!!
So you approve of the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and regime change for corporate interests...You just think Bush didn't do it as economically and efficiently as Obama?
You're a real principled person Box...
Maybe Obama can destroy Syria for $750 Million. What-a-bargain!!
Ya'd think just once Cicero would get it right... just once! To answer your first question: ~So you approve of the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and regime change for corporate interests... No. Then: ~You're a real principled person Box... Yes, I am.
When Cicero can't find anything to post, he attributes his blathering as if it originated elsewhere and pretends to post for others. It amuses him, but not a very productive conversation when he posts for both parties.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So you approve of the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and regime change for corporate interests...You just think Bush didn't do it as economically and efficiently as Obama?
You're a real principled person Box...
Maybe Obama can destroy Syria for $750 Million. What-a-bargain!!
Liberals like to call it humanitarian efforts not war
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Both Cicero and Henry have taken up speaking for liberals... they must have opened up a big box of 'straw men' today and can't wait to use them.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
the fact remains.....war happens....and it's usually for resources to keep our precious civilisation running......and it's never going to go away... so to say that only certain wars are unjust is just plain blank.....all wars are unjust to someone and all wars are justified to someone....the problem is finding out who to call insane first....
we send humanitarian crap to countries who's leaders cant get their sh!t together and it's a waste ..... we pretend to set some folks free then 'share' resources after....
just rats in a cage we are or is it ants under a magnifying glass?
I wont defend any wars.....but I also wont 'feel sorry' for a soldier....I say, you chose it and good for you...I dont live in their head, they do......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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