ROTTERDAM TOWN BOARD SPECIAL MEETING MARCH 30, 2011 AGENDA 5:30 p.m. Legislative Review/Executive Session 7:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE SUPERVISOR’S REPORT - DISCUSSION: Rotterdam Emergency Medical Board PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR FOR PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS PERSONNEL: Res. No. PUBLIC HEARINGS: None PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS Res. No CONSENT ITEMS: Res. No DISCUSSION ITEMS COMMITTEE REPORTS PUBLIC COMMENT PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR (Per Resolution No. 444.06) G General Rules of Procedure for Public Hearings & Privilege of the Floor: Each speaker will state his/her name and address for the record. To ensure each attendee has an equal and reasonable opportunity to address their concerns, he/she is afforded a maximum of four (4) minutes to address the Town Board. MISCELLANEOUS ADJOURNMENT FRANCIS DEL GALLO, Supervisor
Formal Request for Proposal By the Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 March 29, 2011 For AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SECTION 1.0 PURPOSE OF THIS FORMAL REQUEST The purpose of this document is to solicit proposals on Ambulance Transportation Services that may be acquired by the Town of Rotterdam, New York. All inquiries concerning this RFP should be addressed to: Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 Phone: (51 355-7575 extension 391 Please carefully read the following submission guidelines which include the basic requirements for the ambulance transportation services. These guidelines also include the desired format of the respondent's proposal. Proposals will be carefully reviewed by designated members of the Town of Rotterdam who have been assigned the task of evaluating each vendor(s) solution. Each vendor will have an appropriate amount of time in which to make a presentation. Please include, with your proposal, an estimate of time for your presentation. IMPORTANT! Vendors are required to have their proposals delivered to the Rotterdam Town Clerk no later than 10:00 a.m. on April 6, 2011. A review of the proposals will be completed by April 11, 2011. A decision will follow for the selection of the most appropriate proposal. It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process. 3-31;4-1,2,3,4,5,6 4915
note - there are two classic quotes contained below look for the "" and watch for the A$$ covering technique
on to the meeting
executive session on the water pipe repair union issue result 4-1(?) no legislative review by the town board
Nicki - absent
10 attendees
Todd koza – submits a letter from the NYS Dept of Health on the billing of Paramedic intercept which states that separate organizations must bill for the part of the intercept they supplied
Kelly rhinesmith- Board should exclude firefighters and Rems employees And include private residents-who will not gain financially from the contract
Bob - The reason the board is that they are experts in their field
Kelly - It should not include members who would be bidding on a contract What is the over site, Consider the potential for conflict of interest
Dean Rocco- 30years of fire service Police, fire, paramedic and ambulance 4 fire companies are ems - this board is for training service
FDG -Why is it abolished – Dean - it disappeared when rems and white eagle merged FDG How long has it been gone – Dean - 5 years
Wayne - we will not let go of our control on the bidding process - I agree this is a joint venture and it (the medical board)needs to be put back together
Bob -Fire chiefs association could be the flow thru for the And the County emergency management coordinator should be included
Bob’s suggestion 2 town board members 2 police 2 ambulance service providers 1 fire chief Emergency management coor Health officer
Matt - Agrees with bob
FDG – “I don't care who is on it”
Matt - 2- residents at large are needed
FDG- “That would be hard to find”
Dean on the The fire chief 2 chosen from both fire company types First responders vs traditional
We should let nicki know
Committee report Matt - I went to the BOA (brownfields) meeting there will be a presentation for the may 11th meeting
Bob- meeting with police and paramedics on the bid package it will be in gazette
Group holesworth and tolten - they are knowledgeable on this item - and the consultant liked the rfp - would he give us a review We could fax the bids - $1000 On on site for $2300 8th or the 10th Chief hamilton says yes
Wayne - we are all unique - we should not go outside of town to do that
Matt - I need to think Fdg - we need to think about it - but he would just give an opinion
Bob - please review the documents from 4 years ago - who is going to guide us
Bob to fdg - you cannot spent the money unless Mr. Supervisor unless the board directs you
Decision by 4/13
This might be the cheapest 1K you ever spent
Matt - what we get from the dude
Bob - he will review and give an opinion as to which bid is better
Wayne - this will require more than a 1hr meeting - maybe a work session
Dean - the bid package is very complex In your hands by 6th and the 13th is the final decision 6-8 days is tough
Bob – Michelle – do you keep a signout sheet for the bids???? deans name is on the sheet March 29th
Public comment Joe venderwerken- president of rems Rems is celebrating 75 years of service Look at the last page – of the holesworth and tolten report – what does it say – “keep things like they are”
Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
Formal Request for Proposal By the Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 March 29, 2011 For AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES SECTION 1.0 PURPOSE OF THIS FORMAL REQUEST The purpose of this document is to solicit proposals on Ambulance Transportation Services that may be acquired by the Town of Rotterdam, New York. All inquiries concerning this RFP should be addressed to: Town of Rotterdam 1100 Sunrise Boulevard Rotterdam, New York 12306 Phone: (51 355-7575 extension 391 Please carefully read the following submission guidelines which include the basic requirements for the ambulance transportation services. These guidelines also include the desired format of the respondent's proposal. Proposals will be carefully reviewed by designated members of the Town of Rotterdam who have been assigned the task of evaluating each vendor(s) solution. Each vendor will have an appropriate amount of time in which to make a presentation. Please include, with your proposal, an estimate of time for your presentation. IMPORTANT! Vendors are required to have their proposals delivered to the Rotterdam Town Clerk no later than 10:00 a.m. on April 6, 2011. A review of the proposals will be completed by April 11, 2011. A decision will follow for the selection of the most appropriate proposal. It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process. 3-31;4-1,2,3,4,5,6 4915
so now it is not a bid
it is now a Request for Proposals
and the results will not be read aloud and there will be an executive session to make a final decision -
I see the Democrat Whore - Crystal Clear - has installed her dancing pole in the main meeting room at town hall
Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
Public comment Joe venderwerken- president of rems Rems is celebrating 75 years of service Look at the last page – of the holesworth and tolten report – what does it say – “keep things like they are”
Pathetically enough, JV simply states that REMS is celebrating "75 years of service to the Town"...his justification to choose REMS. What JV fails to mention is that REMS did not exist until about 5 years ago. Prior to the merging of the volunteer squads that now comprises the paid REMS, they were dropping more than half of their calls....and not much changed after the merger. Their best response coverage occurred only after the tax scheme re-emrged...obviously it would be hard to gain tax support for an ems that doesn't show up.
The Holesworth report was done during a REMS favorable Tommasone administration...the Cazalet report compiled before that is a much more accurate picture of the nightmare that has been Rotterdam ems. The Cazalet report was commissioned by the Paolino administration. The report revealed a massive volume of dropped calls...gross financial mismanagement, which exists to this day...no effort to bill insurance and collect...while promoting a tax district...their all purpose answer to all of their disturbing ills.
The recommendation then, as an alternative to private providers, was to merge the two squads into a leaner, more efficient group and to hire a BUSINESS MANAGER for billing, collection, accounting, etc. They wanted no part of it....and territorial issues left them resistant to merging...until they wanted another $90K bailout and the merger was made a condition of the bailout.
"Keep things as they are" was a misguided recommendation...Tommasone forgot to tell them about the ALS scam in progress....and the unnecessary tax district they were promoting while insisting they could not survive without it...until they had no other choice. The moment the tax district was rejected REMS immediately came out and stated that they would continue to operate...while TJ Hooker conceives another scheme to get them guaranteed business.
Keep in mind that REMS went nuts when they found out that whether or not the tax was approved, the ems contract would go to bid....that's why the first vote was postponed. They wanted a guarantee that they would be the beneficiaries of that tax...and when they couldn't include this in the referendum language, they passed a resolution awarding the tax windfall to REMS if the referendum passed. The Town wasted more than $30K on a rigged referendum that failed miserably only to end up in a bidding process anyway. We could have done that in the first place...but again, REMS didn't want to participate in a bidding process with no chance to compete because this was before they decided they didn't need the tax after all...before the tax scheme fell apart...they were just kidding...all at taxpayers expense.
Now they are looking for similar guarantees...in the form of guaranteed business from the same residents they have been shortchanging for years now.
Maybe it's time to clean out the whole town board and elect people who would do things fairly and not make decisions in a closed session and never reveal the results to the taxpayer. The residents were promised a bid not a back room deal.
These clowns are clearly NOT capable of accepting and/or awarding bids!! They don't have a clue....OMG!!!
There is clearly a back door deal to some how, some way have rems awarded the bid, deserving or not!!!! The 'good old boys club' is still alive and well in rotterdam!!
Extending the bid date??? WTF? Can't FS, in all of his legal wisdom, whip one up???
There hasn't been a medical board in rotterdam in 5-6 years???? WTH is the rush now? Oh....that's right, the dem-o-cons want it filled with 'the good ole' boys'!!
And BG wants to refer back to the study done during the last administration where on the last page of the study states....'leave things as they are'. Looks like BG has learned to play nice with TJ Hooker....eh?
This administration is doing more business 'behind closed doors in secret' than a freakin whore house!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh......campaigning on transparency......VIVA REVITALIZE ROTTERDAM!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I find it interesting that while Dean Rock (I think that was his name, couldn't exactly hear it) was speaking, he was not asked to direct his comments directly to the town board, and was actually turning to speak, through the microphone, right to Kelly Rhinesmith. At the same time, Kelly gets shouted down from the Supervisor when she tries to respond in kind from her seat when she's spoken to, and she gets squashed? This just speaks of cronyism and pay to play politics. Also, I thought that he was there speaking as a fire chief, but then he states that "we" (REMS) HAVE to be on that board. "It's been gone since WE merged. Since REMS and White Eagle came together.
As far as Mr. Calder's comments on this. He states that any and all providers of service that may respond to a call in the town should have a seat on this board. So, does that mean he will step up and request that Mohawk also have someone to come and sit on the board? It's nice to hear that Mr. Godlewski actually brought up this point without specifically mentioning Mohawk.
"Myself, I don't really care who's on it," says the Supervisor. Wow, what a comment. I mean really, we're only talking public safety, who cares who's on the committee?
I like Mr. Martin's comments about having 2 at large residents of the town as part of this board. He states that why not allow it, when you're already have 2 town board members as part of this? I mean, if the town board members themselves aren't firefighters, EMT's and such, what amount of input are they going to give, besides being able to look at the town budget and knowing what was stated behind closed doors as far as how they thought specific money was going to be spent? Besides that, they ARE at large residents.
It's also really nice to hear that Supervisor DelGallo thinks that it would be "hard to find" two "normal residents." How demeaning can you get to the people who put you into office?
Public comment, priviledge of the floor, I agree with Ms. Rhinesmith. While we may have now had ambulance companies running in Rotterdam for 75 years, REMS has not been in existance that long, and should not be celebrating anything but what they have done since forming their new company.
It's also really nice to hear that Supervisor DelGallo thinks that it would be "hard to find" two "normal residents." How demeaning can you get to the people who put you into office?
I'd have to listen to it again, but my understanding was two "normal" town board members, not residents.
Why was she not in attendance? Wasn't this special meeting called at her request? Was she informed of the meeting being held?
Bob's suggestion ... 2 ambulance service providers ...
I agree that any who could be associated with providers who are potential bidders on the contract should not be included on the Medical Advisory Board. This would include those associated with REMS, the fire departments, and the paramedics. I suggest that they enlist several who are employed in the medical field (i.e., practitioners) and several who have experience with contract law.
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355-7575 extension 391 Please carefully read the following submission guidelines which include the basic requirements for the ambulance transportation services. These guidelines also include the desired format of the respondent's proposal. Proposals will be carefully reviewed by designated members of the Town of Rotterdam who have been assigned the task of evaluating each vendor(s) solution. Each vendor will have an appropriate amount of time in which to make a presentation. Please include, with your proposal, an estimate of time for your presentation. IMPORTANT! Vendors are required to have their proposals delivered to the Rotterdam Town Clerk no later than 10:00 a.m. on April 6, 2011. A review of the proposals will be completed by April 11, 2011. A decision will follow for the selection of the most appropriate proposal. It is requested that each vendor not deviate from this protocol. Any marketing initiative should be part of the package. Vendors who are seen to deviate from this protocol will be disqualified from this bid process. 3-31;4-1,2,3,4,5,6 4915
