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GrahamBonnet
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Would this mean that Matty M is the bumbling/fumbling/Johnny Ola errand boy............Fredo.  ROTFLMAO  "Her young friend"

Classic!


Oh my gosh! YES! What a coincidence! HE IS SMART, HE ISN'T DUMB!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Are Town Councilmen and the Supervisor permitted to respond to / challenge statements
made during the privilege of the floor?


No, they should shut up but they have the "BULLY" pulpit.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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excuse me, Town Councilpersons
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Were you sleeping through the 2009 campaign?  Ya know those No New Taxes signs on peoples lawns, the radio interviews.  How much clearer could BM and the rest have made their positions known on the taxing district?  Now being a board member like ND is on lthe other hand, with Justin Mason sitting directly in front of her, she had plenty of FREE opportunities to voice her opposition to the district.  BUT...She didn't.  In fact, she voted YES to create the taxing district.


I didn't dispute BM's opposition to the tax district...or his efforts to make his position on the TX known...what I ASKED is why
didn't BM also oppose the VOTE on the district, while you are asking why the current administration didn't oppose the vote...the
one for which they were supposed to forsee the results...so why didn't BM oppose the vote based on what you claim should have
been forseeable?

She voted yes to putting the measure up for the vote...just as BM urged the Tommasone administration to do....and the positions
of the Board Memers would no longer matter if they were not the ones who were going to decide...but you could have asked her at
anytime before or after the vote and she would have told you her position...but you obviously did not...as you never do...because
you wouldn't be making the assumptions you do if you did....and you wouldn't be trying to put words in my mouth.
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In his political marriage he is only torn between two lovers. He might work things out, with counseling. With NDL, sadly she is ready to move in with another party, the one she dumped for the one in uniform earlier on.


GB I am really beginning to wonder about you... let me try this again...

ND is not a Demcrat and was never registered Democrat (yes Marv got it wrong and she notified him of the mistake but of course
he didn't bother to correct it)....she is enrolled Conservative and is not moving back in with the GOP...and has she ever given you
any reason to believe she has any such intention.
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There is great discontent on the republican committee over the possibility that a few of the leaders may shove this down their throats. Idealogically she has nothing in common with the party since she has nothing idealogical in her head. Just opportunism. When OBAMA was elected there was this false sense that there would forever be a mass hysteria of liberalism converging on his cult of personality, and there were several republican women who went with that wave and jumped ship to the Obama-supporting copservative party which as you know supports liberal communists and socialists because of their self-interest in their trade union. They must have felt they couldn't perpetrate the fraud as well if they went to the democrap party directly so they went to the falsely-named Conservative party and ran under the Obama socialist banner THAT way, thinking they would be able to pass themselves off as a more palatable entree on the political table. In my book that is just a form of political cross dressing. They don't pass. HV is another one, following in Judy D's footsteps.

I can see what they were thinking"  "Ohhh Obama is sooo wonderful and everyone will love him forever so I better join them and pile up on the Republicans now and kick them when they are down!" but they also thought- "If i switch to actual democrap then people might not go for it so I will follow what our wonderful chief says and become part of the power-house conservative party, that way I can go whatever way the wind blows tomorrow and no one will say anything!" However they never thought they might want to be coming BACK to the party they started out with. But you know, once you go democrap you can't come back. If you START as a another party and SEE THE LIGHT, then yes- you can come over from the darkness, but the back-and-forth, back-and-forth BS is too much to swallow for anyone with a mind. Now I hear that the copservatives are shoving the daggers into the backs of some of their own (as ordered by the communist masters in the county) and they don't like it and want back in, IN ADDITION to seeing that the OBAMA MAGIC has worn off...

Some people excel at fence jumping, but I have always seen the political light through the lens of Reagan and becoming a democrap-endorsed nominee (no matter what the uniformed svengalis command) stinks to high heaven! I don't know how ANYONE could trust her to have principals of any sort because THE BRAND MEANS SOMETHING! You fight under the red flag then STAY UNDER THE RED FLAG!


GB...tell us about how you played both sides of the tax district to buy the endorsement of the copservatives that never gave it
to you because you idiots not only gave them what they wanted first but did it in a manner that would have made it impossible
for you to back out when you finally realized they were going to stick it to you...just as you were warned they would do.

The truth is...you are the one who sold out to the "copservatives" for yourself...ND won't and that's why she won't deal with them.
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How much of ND's record are you going to re-write?  

I know,,,I know,,,everything with ND isn't as it seems.


I asked if we were all the way back to the Gillette House...what did I re-write??? You seem to have an uncanny ability to manipulate
the words of others at times...you are attempting to re-write what I actually say.

I didn't say everything isn't always as it seems with ND...only when you advance assumption as fact when I know different...and I
would do the same for anyone else if I knew that inaccurate information was being circulated through any venue.
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More committeepersons are angry about The Godmother trying to run as a republican. Oh boy...


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I didn't dispute BM's opposition to the tax district...or his efforts to make his position on the TX known...what I ASKED is why
didn't BM also oppose the VOTE on the district, while you are asking why the current administration didn't oppose the vote...the
one for which they were supposed to forsee the results...so why didn't BM oppose the vote based on what you claim should have
been forseeable?


First you make a claim that he said he supported a vote on the taxing district for which you offer no proof of.  If you can provide a written record of his statement, then we can continue to have that debate.  But let's take you at your word that BM did in fact publicly stated he supported holding the referendum, he did so publicly stating his personal opposition to the necessity of the new taxing district.  That is more than I can say for ND or the rest of them on the board.

So if at the time of his alleged statement supporting a referendum, was that because he and yourself were trying to derail the Tommasone permissive referendum with threats of circulating petitions to overturn the permissive referendum?  Which ultimately led him to run on the No New Tax party(with a little p to make you happy) line.  BTW, at least people knew where the Tommasone administration stood on the issue.  It lost them the election, but at least they punted the issue after seeing the unpopularity of the taxing district.

Whether BM supported the vote or not(which there is no proof), his personal fundamental beliefs about creating a new tax during one of the worst recessions in American history is crystal clear. The rest that currently sit on the Town Board have a YES vote to create a new taxing district on their voting record, with zero record of leadership on the issue.


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She didn't have to ask...they asked first....by your definition BM is a fence jumper too...they're just the other way around.

ND takes orders form no one...especially not BH....she has no political marriage...so there is nothing to evaluate....and she
doesn't need to be forgiven...she did nothing wrong.

Ask the Dagostinos how their last conversation went with ND...lol.

You are just as conveniently delusional as BM and his followers...and insisting over and over again that ND is anything like you
claim won't make it so. Keep throwing the fake mud GB..,it will do BM wonders - lol.

BTW, have you forgiven BM for toppling team Steve???? As I recall, ND never ran a spoiler race.


I was voting to spoil.....the time was right and ripe....this town needs an enema.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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First you make a claim that he said he supported a vote on the taxing district for which you offer no proof of.  If you can provide a written record of his statement, then we can continue to have that debate.  But let's take you at your word that BM did in fact publicly stated he supported holding the referendum, he did so publicly stating his personal opposition to the necessity of the new taxing district.  That is more than I can say for ND or the rest of them on the board.

So if at the time of his alleged statement supporting a referendum, was that because he and yourself were trying to derail the Tommasone permissive referendum with threats of circulating petitions to overturn the permissive referendum?  Which ultimately led him to run on the No New Tax party(with a little p to make you happy) line.  BTW, at least people knew where the Tommasone administration stood on the issue.  It lost them the election, but at least they punted the issue after seeing the unpopularity of the taxing district.

Whether BM supported the vote or not(which there is no proof), his personal fundamental beliefs about creating a new tax during one of the worst recessions in American history is crystal clear. The rest that currently sit on the Town Board have a YES vote to create a new taxing district on their voting record, with zero record of leadership on the issue.


You are really getting desperate Cicero...obsessed with a single issue...not even the issue...but who stated their position and
who did not...not like you, but...

I think BM's own statements are sufficient "proof" - lol - I was at the meeting when he stood at the podium and said the tax
referendum "should not be decided by five people"...the comment was quoted in the People's Gazette....I never said he
supported the tax....or disputed the clarity of his position on the TAX.

Thanks for letting me know I was involved in a petition drive related to the referendum...no one ever told me that so this is
news to me - lol.

Yes ST and Co punted...to the next administration...who insisted they had to have the vote because the previous adminstration
already promised it... but it wasn't just the sudden opposition...it was more of a convenience...as it was at the same time ST
realized he was going to be screwed in the political deal he made for that tax...so he denied his backstabbers their tax...and
used the oppostion to back out of his end of the deal. Thanks so much Steve...for thinking of yourself instead of just telling them
no in the first place.
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More committeepersons are angry about The Godmother trying to run as a republican. Oh boy...


You are the only Committee person who is angry...because ND won't stroke your huge ego.
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I was voting to spoil.....the time was right and ripe....this town needs an enema.....


Well then Senders you should have a ball this year...the NNTP spoiler not only lives...but duplicates! LOL!
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Well then Senders you should have a ball this year...the NNTP spoiler not only lives...but duplicates! LOL!


and I am not a politician.....just a regular joe who's fed up with the status quo......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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and I am not a politician.....just a regular joe who's fed up with the status quo......


I didn't mean to suggest you are a politician...I think your rhetoric makes it pretty clear that you are not...that's why we
stay 'off your back' ! LOL

I was only saying that if you prefer those alternatives you should see a lot more of them...the only problem is that they
cannot win on those ballot lines alone.
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