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Dunzy's is for sale ... anyone interested?  Apparently the first casualty of the "Recovery" in Rotterdam.

Supposedly asking price is in the mid $200k's
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Dunzy's is for sale ... anyone interested?  Apparently the first casualty of the "Recovery" in Rotterdam.

Supposedly asking price is in the mid $200k's


If you've been to Dunzy's, you would know it has nothing to do with the Recovery Room.  Mismanagement is probably the larger issue.  I'd buy the building and the liquor license, they can keep the business.  


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A real shame. The first of many local tappies to fall. How many governmental gin mills can any area support? And the governmental/RIDA backed Recovery Room was supposed to create jobs-lol.
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If you've been to Dunzy's, you would know it has nothing to do with the Recovery Room.  Mismanagement is probably the larger issue.  I'd buy the building and the liquor license, they can keep the business.  


I've been in Dunzy's ... it wasn't the high class, govt supported establishment that the Recovery is. Nope, it was built on the backs of hard working people, who paid taxes, paid employees a fair wage and offered good food and drinks - that's all I want a bar to be, nothing more.  I'd support them any day over a govt supported, tax subsidized establishment.
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Metroplex - creating jobs at the expense of other businesses.  Metroplex has the luxury of measuring job creation without measuring the negative affect it has on surrounding businesses.  It doesn’t necessarily mean only counting restaurants or bars that go out of business, but also how shifts may have been cut, or wait staff laid off due to a drop in business.  

When are people going to wake up?


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I've been in Dunzy's ... it wasn't the high class, govt supported establishment that the Recovery is. Nope, it was built on the backs of hard working people, who paid taxes, paid employees a fair wage and offered good food and drinks - that's all I want a bar to be, nothing more.  I'd support them any day over a govt supported, tax subsidized establishment.


Not saying I wouldn't support them over government subsidized anything’s.  I'm just saying they were their own worst enemy.  When you order stuff from the menu and they say they don't have it, or you wait for a drink while the bartender is either not behind the bar or talking at length to a customer, people tend to go where service is better.  With expendable income at a premium, people are particular where they spend their limited entertainment budget.


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I don't think the recovery gin mill has a major impact on dunzys. If it has, it is just temporary. A few folks that I have talked to don't like it. They don't like the food or the warehouse like atmosphere.

But I'm sure there will be a few that will go there.


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I wouldn't call this the first casualty, being this close to the beginning of Recovery Room opening.  This would have to have been pushed this way much earlier than the opening of this restaurant.


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I would say that the RR is more or less the final nail. If the RR takes away just 10% of the business from a small operator (especially in THIS winter and in THIS economy) you can be pretty sure that is enough to knock the wind out of them so that they can't really make any kind of profit. Small business is running on tight margins these days and when you get a subsidized operation owned by well-connected hitters with major 7-figure capital behind them, you can pretty much be rest assured that you are the Pop Warner team playing against the Steelers on any given Sunday.


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I'd buy Dunzy's....places like the RR get novelty visits not 'guaranteed' income.....


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Dunzy's was nice inside .. and had good food and beverages -- and good service -- but parking was a problem.

The asking price seems out of wack .. considering the limited parking.



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Upon further review, you might have some back taxes to pay when you buy this land, or it will be paid off with the proceeds of the sale:

http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/For-the-Record-753871.php#page-2

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Taxpayer: Dunzy's LLC, 2612 Guilderland Ave., Rotterdam

Amount: $9,816

Type of lien: Property

Index no.: E-030411902-W011-4

Imposed: Sept. 17



Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/default/article/For-the-Record-753871.php#ixzz1G4V9wZvu


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Dunzy's did a lot of catering/take out business ....  but it's sit down business was not what it needed to be.
I have that from a good source.

There food was great and the service was great -- but the location was problematic .. at best.
Years ago when people WALKED to their neighborhood tavern .. a place like Dunzy's would have done great.
Today -- everyone hops in their cars .. and if they can't park their cars easily ... they drive on until they find a place with better parking.


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Is there a sign in front of the building?  Or was this listed somewhere?  Just wondering.  May be a good place for another type of business to come into town.


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Eventually --- a lot of the smaller businesses on Guilderland Ave and Curry Rd  (helderberg to 5 corners section) -- are going to have to expand  back from the road into the residential section ---    the lots are too small -- no parking and the "footprints" of the existing buildings are too small for many 21st century businesses.

You can't continue to "shoe horn" in new businesses --- we need a comp plan that meets 21st century needs.


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