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Bush was an idiot who knew how to make money.  Make war--make money.  An oil man in the White Hous--we all should have bought stock in oil.  Yeah he was pretty simple--and Cheney dangerous.


We have a Union man in the White House, how is that working out?  The Bush "oil man" argument has always been fallacious and illogical.  

Barack Hussein Obama went on an America Apology tour in the Middle East, and it went up in flames two years later.  Presidents have influence, not absolute control.  Especially with China as a formidable power.


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Actually - Al Gore made more money from "Big Oil" than  George HW Bush, George W Bush and Dick Cheney combined.      And Gore makes money on the "Green Movement", too.    No matter which way it goes Gore is making a tidy profit   .. use oil .. he profits ...  go green .. he profits.  


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No apology tour. Just trying to regain all the goodwill that had been extended to us following 911.  
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If that helps you simplify and make sense of the world to help you sleep at night, I won't argue.

Liberals mocked Bush as a stupid man, yet in the same breath - Bush controlled every event that happened in the world.  He even controlled the complex global markets.  Simpletons...


Cicero has it wrong again.

Bush is an idiot.  The Bush Economic Meltdown and two unfinished wars, are what happens when you have an idiot in the White House.





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We have a Union man in the White House, how is that working out?  The Bush "oil man" argument has always been fallacious and illogical.  

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  Bush was an OIL MAN... not I post "WAS"!  
W created (with his dad's influence and money) Arbusto Oil Co.  (Arbusto means Bush in Spanish).

Arbusto Oil failed... of Course! as did most everything that Bush touched.


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Bush's $2,86 a gallon prices looks pretty good today. Obama has no plan but likes the price increase. He bans Gulf production and is being sued by every Gulf governor. Last year, the DEMS couldn't produce a single energy bill.

     To blame Bush for Obama's foreign policy incompetence is hilarious. He says nothing when Iranians are being shot in the street by the mullahs but attacked ally Mubarack on a daily basis. In Libya he still doesn't get it. Every EU country had military on the ready, got their people out, while Americans were stuck for 3 days on a ferry. Any other President would have called in an air strike and ended this blood bath. Obama continues to dither with finger in the wind. No wonder his approval is down in every State but Hawaii.
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Arbusto Oil failed... of Course! as did most everything that Bush touched.


So he raided the oil fields of Iraq, and STILL failed in the oil business?  Makes sense.  

$3.50 per gallon after 2 years of Obama.  Please tell me how that idiot Bush caused the oil prices to go up in 2011.

Hanging on to those stale "blame Bush" arguments for dear life.   


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Cicero has it wrong again.

Bush is an idiot.  The Bush Economic Meltdown and two unfinished wars, are what happens when you have an idiot in the White House.


First -- there is only ONE war with at least 2 theaters of action .. the War on Terror
Second -- The Islamic Extremist Terrorists started the War on Terror when THEY ATTACKED AMERICA
Third --  President George W Bush said from very early on that the War on Terror would not be a "typical" war ..and that it would take years to complete.
Fourth -- the situation in the Middle East is a helluva a lot more complicated than you think it is -- look at recent events ... you are naive if you think by bringing our troops home that everything will be OK


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The Bush Economic Meltdown and two unfinished wars, are what happens when you have an idiot in the White House.


The economic meltdown was caused by the mortgage collapse that both parties were involved in. The Iraqi War was a turkey shoot that was over within a month. No one misses Saddam-especially the Kurds. The Afghan war is unwinnable so Obama doubles down. Most DEMS are disgusted with his Afghan policy. Both the British and Russians could not win in that harsh terrain.

     Obama has no energy plan. He needlessly banned Gulf oil. He refuses to open up vast Alaskan fields. He says gas prices should go up more. Say what you will about Bush at least he stood for expanding democracy, could produce a birth certificate and was not friends with halal butcher Quaddafi.
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The Iraqi War was a turkey shoot that was over within a month.

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BS considers the Iraq War a month long "turkey shoot"...  That "turkey shoot" cost the lives of 139 American Patriots.  It wasn't a "turkey shoot" for them.

And BS's "turkey shoot" only lasted a month...  Since the end of his "Turkey Shoot", 2 months after the war began when GWB announced "mission accomplished"...  4300 AMERICAN PATRIOTS LOST THEIR LIVES... NOT QUITE YOUR TURKEY SHOOT FOR THEM EITHER.

The  unnecessary Bush war based on lies.

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First -- there is only ONE war with at least 2 theaters of action .. the War on Terror .
The "war on terror" was against AlQaeda who attacked us on Sept 11... Iraq and Saddam had no connection to the Sept 11th attacks.  They are two separate wars.
Second -- The Islamic Extremist Terrorists started the War on Terror when THEY ATTACKED AMERICA


~ The "war on terror" was against AlQaeda who attacked us on Sept 11... Iraq and Saddam had no connection to the Sept 11th attacks.  They are two separate wars.


Third --  President George W Bush said from very early on that the War on Terror would not be a "typical" war ..and that it would take years to complete.
Fourth -- the situation in the Middle East is a helluva a lot more complicated than you think it is -- look at recent events ... you are naive if you think by bringing our troops home that everything will be OK


I don't think that bringing our troops home will make "everything OK"...  
I think that continuing this war will  accomplish nothing except more dead people, on both sides.


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Obama needs another apology tour of Libya, Iran and Bahrain. He better hurry. Can't believe anyone wanted mass murderer Saddam Hussein who gassed his own people to remain in power. Should we have fought Hitler or was that also to help evil corporations?

     The war was for all about stealing oil according to the idiot left. Except the oil now goes to China not the US. As far as killed, missing and wounded at Gettysburg it was estimated at 48,000. Every American life is precious but 149 deaths to invade Iraq is very low. It was not about oil, it was not about empire-everything the left said was wrong. They also said WWII was all about big corporations. Nothing changes. They want surrender at any price.
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Obama needs another apology tour of Libya, Iran and Bahrain. He better hurry. Can't believe anyone wanted mass murderer Saddam Hussein who gassed his own people to remain in power. Should we have fought Hitler or was that also to help evil corporations?



BS... It's true that Saddam did gas the Kurds.  Saddam got the gas to use against Iran in their war... but do you know WHERE Saddam got this chemical agent that he used against Iran and the Kurds???

Here's a hint:


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     The war was for all about stealing oil according to the idiot left. Except the oil now goes to China not the US.


As noted previously... George W Bush not only lost the war in Iraq... he lost the Iraqi oil contracts.

The Bush Objectives in the Iraq war:
~Kill Saddam... Done (at the cost of 4400 American lives)
~ WMD's... there never were any (Fail)
~Establish a Mid East Democracy in Iraq. (Fail)
~Iraqi Oil (Fail)
~Train Iraqi Troops (So far Fail)

~Make a lot of $$$ for Haliburton... (Huge Success)







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As noted previously... George W Bush not only lost the war in Iraq... he lost the Iraqi oil contracts.

The Bush Objectives in the Iraq war:
~Kill Saddam... Done (at the cost of 4400 American lives)
~ WMD's... there never were any (Fail)
~Establish a Mid East Democracy in Iraq. (Fail)
~Iraqi Oil (Fail)
~Train Iraqi Troops (So far Fail)

~Make a lot of $$$ for Haliburton... (Huge Success)



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