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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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Ignorant abusive people aren't worth responding to  ----

so anyway ---- back to the actual topic.

Personally, I would vote no on the zone change.    Having attended both Planning Commission and Town Board meetings when this issue was being discussed,  I don't believe it is a good idea to add more buildings to that site.  


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I would be against the project based on the engineering report.
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ronny boy im abusive...and proud of it...but im not ignorant ive got my pulse on everything...more than i can say for you. looks can be deceiving but dont worry black spidey is here to protect you  
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He's an old fogey who's trying to make a quick buck, leaving sh!t behind, like the rest of them do, and go to Florida/Nevada/Arizona or where ever
the hell it is that he hibernates.....no planning, no class, no cares.....they all rub elbows for nothing more than their own serving....shame shame shame
dirty dirty dirty


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this explains the secert meeting fdg had with delorenzo last week

isnt tom delorenzo an attorney also???

and

why would dpw do anything concerning the look of rotterdam

and

doesn't this vote require more ayes than normal  because of a petition?


yes it does - super majority
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reading some past posts on this subject i found this tidbit from the dailygazette.com

notice the section below in bold

i would say fdg was wrong or was pulling hard on the wool

a pillar of our community - that man FDG

but he will be a hero on the unveiling of the monument

thanks to google the text of this zoning change will out live his monument




ROTTERDAM
Consideration of project awaiting engineer’s report
Supervisor decided to forgo review others still sought
BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Justin Mason at 395-3113 or jmason@dailygazette.net.

    Tom DeLorenzo has asked Rotterdam officials to withhold a decision on his controversial zone change request until the result of a town-designated engineer’s report can be reviewed.
    Apparently unaware of the project’s status, board members argued at length over who decided to remove DeLorenzo’s proposed zone change from the agenda for their business meeting last week. They also questioned Supervisor Frank Del Gallo’s apparent decision to forgo a report from a towndesignated engineer reviewing the validity of DeLorenzo’s claim that he could construct a four-unit apartment building on the property even without the zone change.
    DeLorenzo is asking to change 2.7 acres off Floral Avenue near Walnut Avenue from a mix of zoning to multifamily residential. Residents living in homes adjacent to the property have opposed the proposal, claiming the building would significantly reduce their privacy and diminish the values of their homes.
    Initially, some board members expected to address DeLorenzo’s proposal during their regular business meeting last week. In anticipation of a forthcoming vote, board members Nicola DiLeva and Gerard Parisi both asked for a report they believed town-designated engineer John McDonald was preparing for the town.
    But Del Gallo said he didn’t see a need to “waste taxpayers’ dollars” on creating a report. He said he was under the impression DeLorenzo wasn’t pursuing the zone change any longer.
    “It’s all over with,” he said during the board’s agenda meeting last week.
    Yet both Parisi and DiLeva pressed him for a report. Both indicated they had expected some kind of official recommendation from McDonald when they asked to hire an engineer last month.........................>>>>.....................>>>>.....................................http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01400&AppName=1


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i wonder

wiill we have a supervisor's report on this subject this wednesday???


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i wonder

wiill we have a supervisor's report on this subject this wednesday???


This should be interesting.  
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i hear this subject will be discussed Monday evening at the agenda meeting

maybe the dpw head will be there to backup the supervisor's decision which the supervisor has no authorty to make in a town of the 1st class

on this subject


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i hear this subject will be discussed Monday evening at the agenda meeting

maybe the dpw head will be there to backup the supervisor's decision which the supervisor has no authorty to make in a town of the 1st class

on this subject


decision?  i'm confused - if there is a petition and a super majority is required, what is the decision?
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decision?  i'm confused - if there is a petition and a super majority is required, what is the decision?


Rotterdam is a 3-2 town board!! Where is the super majority? There is none! If things follow through as usual in rotterdam, TD will start wining, dining and throwing campaign contributions at the first candidate that will vote YES!!

That's how BI, the army depot apts and the recovery gin mill got in!!! It goes to the highest bidder!!!!

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Super majority is 4-1
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Super majority is 4-1


Right! But it's a 3-2 town board. No shot at a super majority there!


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Right! But it's a 3-2 town board. No shot at a super majority there!


So no super majority - no zone change.
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