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Tax cap measure passes in Senate

BY DAVID LOMBARDO Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter David Lombardo at 395-3134 or dlombardo@dailygazette.net.

    The state Senate on Monday passed a measure that would slow the rapid growth of property taxes throughout most of the state.
    The proposal, which excludes New York City, will limit the ability of local governments and service districts to increase property taxes by more than 2 percent or the rate of inflation, whichever is less.
    State Sen. Hugh Farley, RNiskayuna, said the measure was the will of the people and represented a positive trend that is being led by his party, which had introduced the legislation on behalf of Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
    “The Republican Senate in particular is working with the governor and supporting his program,” said Farley.
    He added that Monday’s actions would be particularly signifi cant for Schenectady County, which has the 19th highest taxes in the U.S.
    Aside from a few exceptions, such as for certain capital expenditures, local municipalities can only exceed the proposed cap with a supermajority of the governing body, while a tax increase under the cap only needs a simple majority vote.
    “They can exceed it with a twothirds vote, but then they’re going to have to face their constituency if they do,” Farley said.
    In conjunction with the tax cap, the Senate also passed a bill that would prevent the state from introducing mandates that it doesn’t pay for. Proponents of the bill argued that these types of mandates are responsible for the high local taxes.
    This was a key issue for Assemblyman George Amedore, R-Rotterdam, who said that the tax cap is only meaningful if it comes with mandate relief. ...................>>>>....................>>>>...............http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01101&AppName=1
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With property taxes as high as they are currently a 2% increase every year still amounts to a sizable burden on the taxpayer.
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With property taxes as high as they are currently a 2% increase every year still amounts to a sizable burden on the taxpayer.


Actually it is rate of inflation but not more than 2% ----- so in the past few years the actual tax cap would have
been about 1%.


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My point is there should be a hard tax cap at current levels, no increases as taxes are too high right now.
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Raising the taxes by any amount cannot be acceptable at this point in time.  There is too much of a burden on the taxpayers to allow this.  They need to, instead, start cutting, and start with the axe, not the scalpel.


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Raising the taxes by any amount cannot be acceptable at this point in time.  There is too much of a burden on the taxpayers to allow this.  They need to, instead, start cutting, and start with the axe, not the scalpel.


Local governments can't really cut spending -- because most of the budget is unfunded state mandates --- you need to have State Legislators who will actually grow a spine .... and write and pass legislation to reduce and eventually eliminate all of the unfunded state mandates that are over burdening the counties and local governements.  

Guys like Farley run every 2 years claiming to want lower taxes and smaller government .. but they are huge hypocrites ... because they just keep passing additional unfunded state mandates that end up forcing the counties and local governments to raise property tax rates.

The time is coming when people will NOT be fooled by the "faux conservatives" like Farley ... and will elect State Legislators who will eliminate unfunded state mandates and bring REAL property tax relief to property owners all across the state.


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The time is coming when people will NOT be fooled by the "faux conservatives" like Farley ... and will elect State Legislators who will eliminate unfunded state mandates and bring REAL property tax relief to property owners all across the state.



Wow, again with his power.  One Legislator that single handedly could eliminate the mandates if he wanted to (even being a minority member).  Incredible. He should be KING!
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Wow, again with his power.  One Legislator that single handedly could eliminate the mandates if he wanted to (even being a minority member).  Incredible. He should be KING!


Farley is a ranking member of the part that has controlled the State Senate for 32 of the 34 years that he has been in office.    No one said that he should single-handedly do anything.   But he and the GOP who have controlled the State Senate for  32 of the last 34 years  have done the opposite  voted to raise taxes over 600 times AND voted to add more unfunded state mandates a few hundred times.


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Local governments can't really cut spending --


They can't cut spending??????   Uh, DV, do you have a brain.  Schdy county and city CAN MOST DEFINITELY POSTIVELY cut spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DEFY you to provide one teeny weenie shred of proof that spending even one penny on a gin mill, a theater, hair do salon school, a hotel, stupid bricks, etc. etc. etc. is a mandate???????????????????????????????????

DV, tell us WHERE is there a mandate that taxpayer money MUST be given to millionaires??????????????????????????????????????????    Huh???????    Huh??????????

CUT THE DAMN SPENDING DOWNTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Local governments can't really cut spending -- because most of the budget is unfunded state mandates --- you need to have State Legislators who will actually grow a spine .... and write and pass legislation to reduce and eventually eliminate all of the unfunded state mandates that are over burdening the counties and local governements.  

Guys like Farley run every 2 years claiming to want lower taxes and smaller government .. but they are huge hypocrites ... because they just keep passing additional unfunded state mandates that end up forcing the counties and local governments to raise property tax rates.

The time is coming when people will NOT be fooled by the "faux conservatives" like Farley ... and will elect State Legislators who will eliminate unfunded state mandates and bring REAL property tax relief to property owners all across the state.



Hence the reason that I voted against him this past election.  I tried to change the state AND Schenectady County with 2 of my votes.  The first time I ever voted for Democrats, and I wasn't voting them INTO an office, my vote was to get them OUT of the office they're CURRENTLY in.

I didn't vote for one incumbent, and I didn't (and never will) vote for anyone who ran unopposed.


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.. but they are huge hypocrites ... .


Talk about hypocrites??????      Who says that tax dollars should not be spent on charter school education (education is law), but who has absolutely no problem with tax dollars spent on a PRIVATE hair-do school, or on a PRIVATE gin mills, nor on PRIVATE theaters, nor on PRIVATE hotels, nor on PRIVATE catering halls, nor on a PRIVATE gym.

That is where the true hypocrite is.


And DV, just for your information, you obiovusly don't know diddly squat about legislators voting.  For your education, an example - a HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE.  Legislation is put out there to expand the definitition of DWI and attached to that legislation is a a mandate that viagara is covered for medicaid recipients because Mr Silver says "the only way this DWI bill is getting through is if viagara is covered."  So Farley will vote yes and YOU claim he raises taxes for these stupid mandates when he really had no choice.   And these things happen regardless of who the legislators are.  It's just that the dems are bigger wasters of taxpayers money, as we can see from downtown Schenectady



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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I smell a whining baby hermaphrodite with a stinky diaper.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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Local governments can't really cut spending -- because most of the budget is unfunded state mandates --- you need to have State Legislators who will actually grow a spine .... and write and pass legislation to reduce and eventually eliminate all of the unfunded state mandates that are over burdening the counties and local governements.  


Oh yeah,,,,and its bigger than Farley.....it's the gumbas and their machine....and the familia.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Then its even. He can smell you from there too. A loud-mothed child-molesterish looking cretin farted out of the girl private of hell.


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I smell a whining baby hermaphrodite with a stinky diaper.


Whining?   I'm not whining.

First, I'm explaining to you how things really work.  

Second, asking you to explain your hypocrisy.  I prove you a hypocrite and you won't respond


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
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