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benny salami
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Good point Rachel-bring back recess. Let our kids go out and play. The word rigor is totally absent in today's educational system. There is no rigor in the curriculum and none in the physical education. They play kickball where only one moving is the physical ed teacher. While we're at it bring back the coaches.

     Let the coaches get the kids motivated, fired up about sports and having fun again. Diet should be stressed at home. Schools must get these kids moving. From the bus (home pickup) to the school where they sit all day. Little feet hardly touch the pavement.
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This type of nanny state control over our lives must stop or next we'll all be riding bicycles and cars will be banned.


Wait, cars will be outlawed and we'll all have to ride bikes, and I'm sure helmets won't be the only requried attire.

I heard something the other day about helmets and skiiers, I think I might have heard that kids have to wear helmets, maybe I heard that adults would have to as well.

I'm rather surprised that with more people killed in auto incidents than race car drivers even getting a little scrape in a racing incident ("per capita"), I'm surprised that roll cages arent' mandated in our every day cars



Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
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There is a huge difference between American Veggies and Conservative Veggies that is pertinent to this discussion.

While American veggies like carrots, peas, corn etc are pretty mainstream...
Conservative veggies (as defined by Ronald Reagan) are much less universal... Remember the Ronny Reagan veggie... catchup?  Picture a plate full of Conservative veggies if they were served at a restaurant...
Catchup, relish, and a little mustard... The Conservative food pyramid!  


AHHHHHH....you have it mixed up.....conservative veggies ARE peas carrots corn.....the liberal American veggie is catchup, relish,
mustard etc.....because mustard, catchup, relish and the likes are 'cut' with high fructose corn syrup to spread it around further at lower
cost all the while subsidising the farmers....how much more would a bottle of catchup cost without the high fructose corn syrup filler????


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It is not the government's role to provide ANY of these 'services/products'. They are 'personal' under the heading of 'personal choice'.
it is the government's role to protect the countries boarders. It is also their job to maintain a strong military for defense.  It is the government's role to provide a safe environment supported by infrastructure to encourage and promote jobs and job creation for all of it's citizens.

Government hand out programs are at an all time high in this country. So obviously the government is failing it's citizens.


I do want to agree with you, however, when there are no jobs does government have a roll in preventing people from freezing for lack of heat, have a roll in feeding children who otherwise might starve, etc.  

It's probably because everyone has grown accustomed to it, the social programs I mean.  People lost homes in the depression and were not given taxpayer funded bailouts.  I guess families all lived together, kid, parents, grandparent, aunts and uncles.  Problem is today the government seems to think that every child must have their own room and their own bed.

The problem with personal choices and those people who make bad personal choices, we end up having to pay for it.  For example, if there is a person out there who is low income/welfare, who eats so much salt on foods that the person has high blood pressure and the related heart problems, and goes through life with sweets and winds up diabetic, and the combination results in all the typical problems, well, you know when that person winds up in the hospital with diabetic and vascular problems, well, who pays?   We do whether it's via higher taxes.   And if medicaid doesn't pay enough, then our insurance plans have higher premiums.

Or should we just ignore the person and hospitals shouldn't even admit the person, let the person just die on the street?   How many charities or families might have $100,000 to hand out to pay the hospital bill?  It would be nice to say that govt should do things to cause job creation, but isn't that easier said than done?  These private companies, their top dogs look for the lowest wage possible which invariably mean have the products made in China for 5 cents a day.  SHould government slap huge taxes on companies who move their manufacturing to China?  WOuld it cause companies to move the manufacturing back here?   Or we could just figure that companies should start paying only $7 an hour and then how will the workers pay their bills?


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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If the schools have all the sugary or salty, or processed foods, the kids will grow up with health problems and you know the kids who get the school breakfasts and lunches are the ones who are from low income families who are getting public assistance.  So the kids will grow up with the health problems and we will pay for their health problems.

Yes, for many, school would be the only place they get good fresh vegetables
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rhetorical arguement for the instilation of government intrusion for the lessening cost to the taxpayers for National Healthcare.
"if only we could tell what was healthy for you, it wouldn't cost so much." (slippery slope)

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Too many parents today don't know how to cook a decent meal so everything they provide their kids is fast food full of salt, fat, and lacking in nutrition. The kids today sit on their butts and play video games instead of going out and exercise the way we used to do as kids. It's the parents responsibility to provide their kids with healthy food choices not the governments.


why dont they know how to cook?....because a whole generation went from spelling cat to spelling kat and it being acceptable....

however, with advance in medicine it's not the young that costs it's the aged...we live longer with more ailments than we did before...this isn't elder bashing(for all about to attack)
it's a fact......we have 2 choices here

#1.either our medical system has worked so well that people DO live longer but with problems we never encountered before...
#2.or it hasn't and people are just to sick and it never really was that great and we have no idea how to explain the higher life expectancy...

what do you say?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Too many parents today don't know how to cook a decent meal so everything they provide their kids is fast food full of salt, fat, and lacking in nutrition. The kids today sit on their butts and play video games instead of going out and exercise the way we used to do as kids. It's the parents responsibility to provide their kids with healthy food choices not the governments.


Give a parent a meal, it'll feed them for a day. Teach a parent to cook, it'll feed them for a lifetime!
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Give a parent a meal, it'll feed them for a day. Teach a parent to cook, it'll feed them for a lifetime!


TRUE!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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AHHHHHH....you have it mixed up.....conservative veggies ARE peas carrots corn.....the liberal American veggie is catchup, relish,
mustard etc.....because mustard, catchup, relish and the likes are 'cut' with high fructose corn syrup to spread it around further at lower
cost all the while subsidising the farmers....how much more would a bottle of catchup cost without the high fructose corn syrup filler????

Senders...
Check it out.  Reagan had CATCHUP qualified as a veggi on school menus.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Senders...
Check it out.  Reagan had CATCHUP qualified as a veggi on school menus.  


That's why he was an actor......and ANY president shouldn't be making nutritional decisions, actors or not....we are stupid enough to
let them.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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That is exactly it.  I do blame parents on this one.  Its not the schools responsibility to raise our kids.  They are there to teach them the three Rs not babysit them.  The schools should not have to teach a child to dress themselves or how to bathe.  They should be able to tie their own shoes and comb their own hair.  Spelling their names would be nice too.  School lunches suck and always have.  When I was a little kid, before age 10, we had free lunch at school.  My mom raised 7 kids alone.  We lived on a farm and raised vegetables.  We didnt have chips and soda.  Even at holiday times we got new clothes instead of a lot of toys.  I remember times where my four brothers had to share a Christmas gift.  We had a tv but we didnt watch it much.  Maybe Friday nights or Saturday morning cartoons.  Before and after school, we had chores to do.  We helped the neighbors.  But we also had play time with other kids.  We played til it got dark.  Then we came home for dinner, homework and bath time.  We werent allowed to stay up all night.  When mom said something needed to be done, we did it.  Without question.  We didnt argue with mom.  We respected her because she worked to help support us.  

What was put on our plates, we ate without complaint because we knew that was all there was to eat.  These were values that we passed on to our kids.  I make balanced meals for my kid.  My siblings do the same for their kids.  My child doesnt get the free lunch at school.  If its something she doesnt want to eat, I pack her a lunch.  

Times have changed. Most of these kids rely on school food.  I like that they do offer choices.  If they dont like the hot lunch, they can order a sandwich.  When we were kids, we didnt get that choice.  And we didnt get chocolate milk either.  Mom would put Ovaltine in a baggie for that.  )  
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