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and why he was even issued the guy a gun permit.


They're not required in Arizona.


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Doesn't every conservative have an alter like that in their back yard?


No, they usually have pikes with dead democrats impaled on them.
One thing is for sure, they don't have spell checkers.


Is ALTAR the word you were looking for, or have you've been a haberdasher for so long, that it's just instinctive?




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I'll have to change my altar and add some pikes with Dem heads displayed on them. It took you an awful long time to find a word spelled wrong didn't it?
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They must not have posted any clever rebut on the DailyKos or Huffington lately.  Haven't heard from Box or Tommy in a while.


No, unlike yourself, I don't need pundits to tell me what to think, and also unlike yourself, I have an actual life outside of the internet.


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They're not required in Arizona.


I stand corrected, the law changed last July.

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No, unlike yourself, I don't need pundits to tell me what to think


Oh really, tell me again how in all your brilliance you figured out 10 hours after the shooting Sarah Palin's website targeting congressional districts is responsible for the gunman's actions.  

  
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One Down! 16 to go! Go Sarah!


You're a real brain trust and independent thinker.


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Schenectady City Council
Pat Zollinger
January 10, 2011

In an article published today in the gazette, Mayor Stratton is quoted as saying: “We need to have a level of open government, but the angst in this country and proliferation of firearms and some of these other things make it much more difficult. Its unfortunate politics has become so polarizing, with the tea party movement and the fervor over immigration in Arizona. It’s so crazy to think that this is the level it rises to.”

Well mass murderers are crazy but that doesn’t make it a political cause or issue. Were we all to follow Mayor Stratton’s reasoning then we could easily rationalize any murderous or treacherous act committed by any whacko nut job in our community.

Of course we need an open and transparent local government but Mayor Stratton hasn’t been open or transparent. And I cite the back room pension padding deal that was made between Stratton and Farstad. That was hardly open and it caused great angst with taxpayers, firefighters and city employees alike.

In continuing with that denigrating level of logic I too could make several really stupid statements of fallacy just like Mayor Stratton did.

Mary Beth Tinning killed her children because she was influenced by Roe vs. Wade and a woman’s constitutionally protected right to choose. She just made those decisions after they were born. Lemuel Smith killed women because he believed that affirmative action just wasn’t doing enough for him and his employability. Those women must have been taking all of his potential jobs.

For anyone to turn that horrific and tragic event into a political cesspool, that person has become the lowest life form on the planet. I think that’s called pond scum.

Mayor Stratton obviously believes that people are stupid. But people aren’t stupid. We know when we’re being taken advantage of and taken for a ride. Our mayor has been taking us for a ride, with two finance wizards, a consultant hired as a deputy mayor and chief of staff, appointing well paid people who don’t even live in the city, firing the low end work force by writing their jobs out of the budget and allowing the corporation counsel to spend his summer in Schroon Lake under the guise of “heart attack symptoms.”

Mayor Stratton has lied to us since day one. And you know what? Even a fish wouldn’t get caught if it kept its mouth shut.

It is the responsibility of this council to ensure that we are represented. I ask again that Mayor Stratton resign and I demand that this council petition the District Attorney to begin an investigation into the illegal actions of this mayor and his administration.

http://patzollinger.us/2011/01/10/january-10-2011-schenectady-city-council/
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Oh geeeee whiz Mayor....I guess Mayberry doesn't allow disagreements....the hippies of the 60s are afraid of their own offspring? Honestly this is no
different.....get over it! As for the Palin issue-----only the shiny TV talkers were backing/pushing her....the rest of us Tea Party movers....we never
wanted a leader....IT'S A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT.....apparently no one understands.....

maybe I should type it in ENGLISH....the Tea Party Movement is not for mouth pieces....that IS the dissent and the ire with the DEMS and the REPS....

GOT IT YET? Clean up your act and act American


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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President Obama spoke today with Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, families of some of the victims, Rep. Giffords’ Rabbi and two of the heroes that helped in the Arizona tragedy on Saturday.

In a phone call this afternoon with Sheriff Dupnik, according to White House spokesman Nicholas Shapiro, the President “thanked him for his department’s efforts to respond to this incident and coordinate with the FBI and Director Mueller on the investigation.”


http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit.....-giffords-rabbi.html
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"Whether [political rhetoric] caused what happened in Tucson or not, it’ll cause the next tragedy," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) predicts on FOX News.


http://www.realclearpolitics.c....._cause_next_one.html
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Sanders Fundraises Off Arizona Murders
3:20 PM, Jan 11, 2011 • By STEPHEN F. HAYES

There has been no shortage of individuals and institutions that have sought to capitalize on the shootings in Tucson. Add Vermont senator Bernie Sanders to that list.

This afternoon Sanders sent out a fundraising appeal, seeking to raise money to fight Republicans and other “right-wing reactionaries” responsible for the climate that led to the shooting.

He writes:

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    Given the recent tragedy in Arizona, as well as the start of the new Congress, I wanted to take this opportunity to share a few words with political friends in Vermont and throughout the country.  I also want to thank the very many supporters who have begun contributing online to my 2012 reelection campaign at http://www.bernie.org.  There is no question but that the Republican Party, big money corporate interests and right-wing organizations will vigorously oppose me.  Your financial support now and in the future is much appreciated.


Sanders lists several events as evidence that right-wing rhetoric led to the attacks, and then continues:


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sanders-fundraises-arizona-murders_533487.html
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Where Were All The Armed Right Wingers?
    It's ironic that in a state like Arizona, where guns are commonplace, even concealed guns, that when there actually was a NEED for a gun... none were present except for the assassin's gun.

    Where were all these gun totin Arizona Right Wingers??? Hiding??? Running for the restroom??? Ducking behind women and children for cover???

    With all these guns and the malls full of gun-nuts, it took a wounded old woman and two bystanders to bring down the shooter and disarm him.

    All those Arizona Guns really kept em safe didn't they!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Where Were All The Armed Right Wingers?
    It's ironic that in a state like Arizona, where guns are commonplace, even concealed guns, that when there actually was a NEED for a gun... none were present except for the assassin's gun.

    Where were all these gun totin Arizona Right Wingers??? Hiding??? Running for the restroom??? Ducking behind women and children for cover???

    With all these guns and the malls full of gun-nuts, it took a wounded old woman and two bystanders to bring down the shooter and disarm him.

    All those Arizona Guns really kept em safe didn't they!!!


Good point. But wasn't this a liberal socialist event?
AZ liberal socialists don't tot guns?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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No Bumble it wasn't.

Giffords and her crew were outside of a busy shopping plaza... Most of the people there were shopping and only a relative few were at Giffords table which was outside of one of the stores.
Many of the 911 calls came from people inside the stores who heard the shots and saw the gunman shooting outside.

Arizona has very lax gun laws where most citizens can carry guns even concealed guns... yet and old wounded lady and two bystanders had to take down the gunman.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
No Bumble it wasn't.

Giffords and her crew were outside of a busy shopping plaza... Most of the people there were shopping and only a relative few were at Giffords table which was outside of one of the stores.
Many of the 911 calls came from people inside the stores who heard the shots and saw the gunman shooting outside.

Arizona has very lax gun laws where most citizens can carry guns even concealed guns... yet and old wounded lady and two bystanders had to take down the gunman.


Good point. Wonder why no one in the media didn't pose this question.

But just because a state allows gun toting, doesn't mean everyone does. It just means they CAN! So it appears that none of the folks at this shopping center were not gun carriers. Before this tragedy, they probably thought this area as safe.

This isn't the first tragedy that the u.s. has experienced. From presidents, to politicians, to educators, to musical artists, to airplanes, to entire buildings blown up...........it comes with being a free society that has some schizo nut job wackos.  Ya just can't micro manage society.  And the U.S. should not cave in to these few nut job wackos and attempt to rewrite the constitution. It is what it is!

Rise up, stand tall and move forward as the best country on the face of the earth. IMHO


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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