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The average American could buy a house for the amount of money it takes to run Air Force One every hour.

The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering -- $181,757 per hour. That's the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who as it turns out has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.

Estimates over the years based on government reports and independent number-crunching have always reflected a steep cost for presidential travel, but the figure provided by the 89th Airlift Wing appears to be far higher than any previously reported. It was first published in a report this week on presidential travel by the National Taxpayers Union Foundation.

"It's astonishing. It's far higher than any other ... figure that's been reported on. It's very surprising, and of course it's just a fraction of the overall cost involved with presidential travel," said policy analyst Demian Brady, who wrote the study.

Master Sgt. Jeff Capenos, with the 89th Airlift Wing, told FoxNews.com the figure reflects operating costs ranging from fuel to engine and aircraft maintenance. Asked why other public estimates, which typically did not exceed $100,000, were so much lower, he said: "They were probably inaccurate."

The National Taxpayers Union referred to the publication of the statistic as a "major coup for public disclosure." Brady said the high price tag, as compared with prior estimates, could be attributed not just to inflation but a better and more specific accounting of the associated costs, as well as upgrades made to the aircraft. He urged the administration to be even more forthcoming with presidential travel costs.

Brady also used his report in part to tackle rumors about the cost of Obama's 10-day post-election tour through Asia. One Indian newspaper report quoted an anonymous local official claiming it would cost U.S. taxpayers $200 million every day, a figure Brady dismissed as "wildly exaggerated." The Obama administration also shot down that figure, without detailing the actual cost.

But the trip to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan was by no means cheap. While a total by-the-day figure may be impossible to come by, Brady estimated that the 48 hours of flight time logged on the trip would cost at least $8.7 million for Air Force One alone.



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The article doesn't tell you how much it costs to keep Air Force 1  (and there are actually 2 identical jumbo
jets that are at the president's service along with a fleet of smaller aircraft  -- any one of them .. or even a
commercial airliner .. would have the call name Air Force 1 if the president were aboard it at the time .....
by the way .. as far as I know only  President Nixon ever flew in a commercial airplane during his presidency
and that was on a flight from DC to California for one of his vacations at San Clemente).

The two identical jumbo jets -- are meticulously maintained by a special crew assigned to it ...  they literally
take each plane apart .. clean it ..inspect it .. and put them back together on a regular basis.    
The $180,000 an hour cost of flying the President overseas .. actually seems low to me ....  especially when
you consider that they fly out a couple of C-5 Galaxies with all the limos and vehicles for the motorcade ..
they even put several "Marine 1" helicopters aboard another C-5 ... plus all the other equipment that goes
into a presidential visit.

I recall in the early days of the Carter Administration -- when President Carter made his first visit to Plains, GA  after his inauguration  ----    Carter insisted that he would save money by refusing to fly on Marine 1
from Fort Benning (where Air Force One had landed) to Plains .. he insisted on taking the Presidential limo ..in a motorcade the 60 or so miles ----------    it didn't save any money because  not 1 but 2  identical
"Marine 1" choppers    (they always have a back up) had to fly above the motorcade all the way  .....  and
literally  hundreds of local and state police in Georgia had to  block off the motorcade route and secure all
the side roads  .. it ended up costing many times more than a quick ride in Marine 1 would have cost.


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No, it doesn't, but I can tell you one place that we're going to start saving effective January.  

Ms. Nancy Pelosi is going to get the keys to her private jet that she flies all the way across the countrywith her entourage taken away with the beginning of the next congress.

And what was the price per hour on that one?


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No, it doesn't, but I can tell you one place that we're going to start saving effective January.  

Ms. Nancy Pelosi is going to get the keys to her private jet that she flies all the way across the countrywith her entourage taken away with the beginning of the next congress.

And what was the price per hour on that one?


The president has a fleet of various aircraft ... and in the past .. the Senate Majority leader, Senate Minority
Leader, Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader  .. and I believe the party Whips from both the House
and the Senate could  request to use one of those planes to fly on PUBLIC BUSINESS.  Cabinet members
and some other top officials can be authorized by the President to use a plane from this fleet for PUBLIC
Business.

The issue with Mrs. Pelosi was that the plane made available to  Speaker Gingrinch and Speaker Hastert
(her immediate predecessors)  only had a range of about 1500 miles   (which was OK for Gingrinch who
lived in GA and OK for Hastert who lived in Illinois .. and who apparently didn't mind a refueling stop if they
flew out to the West Coast).

I don't think anyone would be upset about the President flying either overseas or within the US  when it is
absolutely essential to do so.    The G-20 Summit in Asia was an example of a necessary flight.

But I object to his almost incessant need to fly all around the US .... and he always finds a way to throw in
1 "official public business" stop  and then a few political fundraising stops in on each trip.     That is abusing
the privilege of using Air Force One    IMHO.

Even President Bush was reasonable enough to make some appearances by way of teleconferencing ...
which certainly saved a lot of money.

Someday, I will post my thoughts about how  President Obama is costing Americans more money by
insisting on staying at the White House during August recess and some major holidays.

There


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