sex ed--a necessity
condom hand-outs-NO-not when there is a CVS on every corner.  With the sex ed should come some talk of personal responsibility.
Homecoming King and Queen - what's the gripe?  I am missing it.
Pledge of Allegiance BELONGS IN SCHOOL.

Not sure what your beef is?

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  First of all the recruiting is targeted at low-income and black /hispanic students.  

Like Colin Powell?  He was a victim of targeted racism?

Not everybody is "college material".  There is no shame in choosing a career in the military. Just another example of a liberal debasing military service, as if those who join the military are victims of socio-economic circumstances.  I for one admire those who serve, not like Boomer who pity those that serve.  Boomer's praises of our service men and women are empty.  To Boomer it is not an honor to serve in our armed forces, but rather an unfortunate circumstance.

Not to worry, American exceptionalism is on the ascendance.

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  No way should military be allowed to go into high schools.  In fact I am one of the people who was trained to prevent them from doing just that.

How are you trained and who actually trains you to be 'anti-american'?
I didn't know there was an actual class for that....hmmmm!

Yeah whell if you join the peace and justice world you could be grrained too.  The person is with a peace group who comes and it was a two week training.  Un-American--hardly.

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Cis-No!  It should not be allowed.  Field trip to the police station, filed trip to fire station, slide down the fireman pole hang out with the dalmation that's it.  And DVR what the he!! are you thinking?  No way should military be allowed to go into high schools.  In fact I am one of the people who was trained to prevent them from doing just that.  First of all the recruiting is targeted at low-income and black /hispanic students.  I will concede the point that in some instances the military give young people a focus and a desire to live a better life.  Nothing wrong with that.  But trying to get high school kids to join rather than encourage them to go on to college and then make that decision is wrong.  I know the military called my sons at home!  What chutzpah.  I intercepted the calls each time and asked them to NEVER call my house again for my children.  If they wanted to join they would get back to them when they were 21.  I am not against the military just recruitment in high schools.

It is a free country ... so you are free to believe what you would like.  I know many persons from middle
class, white families that proudly joined the military after high school  -- including older my brother who was
recruited in high school by the Navy.  
Not all young people are college bound .. and the military provides great educational opportunities for
young people.    My older brother earned his college degree in the US Navy and has made a good life
because of the training he got there.    My younger brother was a member of the JNROTC in high school andit helped mold his character and although he chose not to pursue a career in the military -- he will tell you
that the JNROTC program made him a better person.
Personally, I think it is DISGUSTING that a person would admit to being trained to prevent the military from
being on high school campuses.  

On this Armistice Day/Veteran's Day  - in my thoughts are my maternal grandmother's brother, Vincent, who
served in the US Army in World War I .    I only met him once that I remember -- right before he died in
1968  -- he suffered terribly from wounds inflicted when he was gassed in the trenches.
My thoughts are also with my paternal grandfather who served in US Army in World War I -- his unit
was kept stateside to patrol the US-Mexico border, my father and all of my paternal uncles except the
youngest  served in the military.
My Dad served in the US Army Air Corp in World War 2.  He was part of the crew of a B-29 super fortress.
He never spoke much about the war .. except near the end before he died .. he told my brother and I of
how doing a favor for a buddy probably saved his life.    He traded weekend passes .. because his buddy wanted to go out with this English girl ... as it turned out the mission that his buddy flew -- got shot down over Germany.  If my Dad had not traded weekend passes, he would have been aboard that mission.

I went up to the Saratoga National Cemetery to visit my Dad's grave and to attend the Veteran's Day
services up there.  It was truly heartening to see several hundred -- if not a thousand people up there
visiting the graves of loved ones and attending the services.

Boomer may just have a point here. Think about it.....wth were are young men doing in nazi germany?? What was it that hitler did that deserved an invasion?

Germany was a strong county. Both economically and militarily. Germany had some of the brightest scientists, physicists and medical professionals that the world had ever seen. And perhaps never will again.

Hitler wanted everyone to be equal. He wanted everyone to think the same as to avoid conflict. His regime wanted to silence all of the negative opposition of his utopian, humanitarian dream just to avoid this unnecessary conflict of interests.

Hitler and his regime wanted to own all private banks, monetary systems and businesses as to avoid the greed that capitalism invokes.

Hitler wanted health care for all of his beloved citizens. Health care that he would design and dole out per his direction. After all, he knew what was best for them.

Hitler wanted to take the burden of thinking and decision making from his countrymen and women. Hitler knew that only he and his regime could do the 'right' thinking and decision making for them.

Hitler invaded other countries because he just wanted to share his governmental ideology. Although it may have appeared like it was 'forced'.....he was really doing it out of the kindness of his heart.

And the Germans loved their beloved leader..........UNTIL...........America drafted their young men to go and die with the hopes of transforming and forcing Germany into another democracy as in their own country.

Boomer, you are right.......how dare our government draft and send our young boys over to Germany to die all in the name of freedom and democracy! We certainly weren't there to save the jews! Hell, some say that the holocaust never even happened.

I'm sure that boomer would agree, that today, on veterans day, there are people in Europe that are spitting on the sites where our young men died........and deservingly so..........right?

BT--just when I think you couldn't be a bigger a$$-you prove me wrong.  Thank you for keeping me grounded in reality.  Unfortunately it is YOUR crazy, bigotted reality--

There are some people in this world who consider the word "PEACE" to be profanity, and avoided at every opportunity.

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BT--just when I think you couldn't be a bigger a$$-you prove me wrong.  Thank you for keeping me grounded in reality.  Unfortunately it is YOUR crazy, bigotted reality--

Crazy? Bigotted? I am just reinforcing what you believe in....PEACE!!

Go to a VFW meeting, or meet with family members who's loved ones died in WWII and tell them how the U.S. had NO BUSINESS going into Germany, a sovereign country, and forced our democracy and freedom upon them.

WTH was FDR thinking???

FDR knew they were rounding up Jews and he knew that the US should have bombed the rail stations and didn't do it. That was my only beef with FDR.

Don't try that twisting crap.  I never said any of that stuff you have posted.  You act moronic when you do that.  If you cannot address directly what I have said then don't respond at all.  

DVR-just noticed your post about being disgusted that we would be trained how to prevent the military from entering high schools.  Too bad you feel that way.  It was condoned by and supported by the churches and synagogues locally.  My brother was also recruited in high school and it shocked my parents that he joined without them knowing it.  Gratefully he was not sent to Viet Nam.  He was supposed to go to college and then into the priesthood.  None of that happened for him except upon testing him they sent him to flight simulator school and it was worth almost two years of education at RPI.  AGain I do not dislike the military--just don't want them on the grounds of a high school--I feel the same way about drug dealers.

Sorry you feel it is alright to act so self-righteous when it comes to the lives of young people.

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tell them how the U.S. had NO BUSINESS going into Germany, a sovereign country, and forced our democracy and freedom upon them.

WTH was GWBush thinking???

(Paraphrasing  the quote)

"Invading the sovereign country of Iraq and forcing democracy on the "liberated" people of Iraq"
... How did that work out for the USA?

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DVR-just noticed your post about being disgusted that we would be trained how to prevent the military from entering high schools.  Too bad you feel that way.  It was condoned by and supported by the churches and synagogues locally.  My brother was also recruited in high school and it shocked my parents that he joined without them knowing it.  Gratefully he was not sent to Viet Nam.  He was supposed to go to college and then into the priesthood.  None of that happened for him except upon testing him they sent him to flight simulator school and it was worth almost two years of education at RPI.  AGain I do not dislike the military--just don't want them on the grounds of a high school--I feel the same way about drug dealers.

Sorry you feel it is alright to act so self-righteous when it comes to the lives of young people.

A career in the military is one of many career options available to our young people -- if the military is not
allowed to recruit on high school campuses than the others shouldn't be allowed to either.

As for churches and synagogues supporting this "training" - they are entitled to their opinion ... I am
entitled to disagree with them  -- doesn't make me a bad person.   BTW - churches and synagogues, also,
support hiding illegal aliens and pouring paint on women's fur coats -- and I find those practices to be
disgusting, too.

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FDR knew they were rounding up Jews and he knew that the US should have bombed the rail stations and didn't do it. That was my only beef with FDR.

Don't try that twisting crap.  I never said any of that stuff you have posted.  You act moronic when you do that.  If you cannot address directly what I have said then don't respond at all.  

I have many many many friends and relatives that also have  friends and relatives that served in WWII. Trust me....those drafted young men had NO CLUE about what was going on with the Jews. So tell me what america was doing there??

FDR told those 'drafted' young men that they were going to fight this war so their children would never have to go to war!

And if you cannot address directly what I have said then don't respond at all..........k?