Since I am not a liberal or a socialist   -- I take umbrage at being accused of doing the things that
Bumble has stated.

I am Pro-life  ACROSS the board  ... with no apologies to anyone on either side.

I believe that Ronald Reagan was right when he said "that as long as there are tests in school .. there
will be prayer in school".

The 10 Commandments are great rules to live by and so are Jesus' 2 Great Commandments -- and I have
no problem with the 10 Commandments or any religious symbol being displayed publicly.

I say Merry Christmas to EVERYONE with no apologies  and I celebrate Hanukkah, too.

i believe we should start our town board meetings with a prayer  -- and that clergy of ALL religions should be
invited to lead those prayesr.

The government hasn't taken over Catholic Charities.

Even if the government recognizes the legality of gay marriage, the marriage will never be Sacramental
as far as the Catholic Church is considered.   I believe that we should adopt the European approach to
marriage  -- require a separate civil ceremony and a separate religious ceremony for those who want it -
the US is one of few nations in which the clergy person is BOTH the civil and religious minister of the
marriage ceremony.

DVOR...
You are Pro Life, and that is fine with me, but do you require that other citizens also follow your choice?  You can be pro life and yet understand that others are just as dedicated to being Pro Choice.

You have no problem with the 10 commandments in school... because you are in the majority,and a christian so there is no conflict.  Suppose you lived in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, or a mostly Muslim area, where those religions were taught in schools, and your kids had no choice but to listen to their doctrine taught as if it were the ONLY religion that's acceptable.
IMO, Schools are for Education... Churches or the home are for Religion.

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DVOR...
You are Pro Life, and that is fine with me, but do you require that other citizens also follow your choice?  You can be pro life and yet understand that others are just as dedicated to being Pro Choice.

You have no problem with the 10 commandments in school... because you are in the majority,and a christian so there is no conflict.  Suppose you lived in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, or a mostly Muslim area, where those religions were taught in schools, and your kids had no choice but to listen to their doctrine taught as if it were the ONLY religion that's acceptable.
IMO, Schools are for Education... Churches or the home are for Religion.

Similarly -- you can be Pro-Choice and understand that others are just as dedicated to being Pro-Life.  
But as to your question -- I have never required anyone to follow my belief system.

I said I have no problem with the 10 Commandments or any OTHER religious symbol being displayed
publicly.    The issue of what should and should not be taught in public schools is a different matter.

You really need to read what people write more carefully.

I just have 0 tolerance for the killing of another human merely for the sake of convenience.

Murder is Murder.

I support groups like Birth Right that not only promotes the Pro-Life point  of view but focuses on
helping mothers MAKE THE CHOICE  FOR LIFE.

Since I am not in the position to appoint or vote on a nominee to the US Supreme Court -- I believe in
focusing my efforts on ways to reduce as much as possible the number of abortions in America.

If you want to put me in a position to appoint a Supreme Court nominee -- I am available as a candidate
in 2012.   And I won't forget all the folks from Rotterdam if I make it to the White House.

If you want to reduce the number of abortions in this country, IMO, Everyone should support Planned Parenthood, or fund a similar group that promotes BIRTH CONTROL!
It amazes me that the Pro Lifers are often the same people who oppose birth control for teens or adults that want it.   The politics of the abortion issue have drawn lines that are often at odds with themselves.  

MT, I agree with you that Murder is Murder.
  And,
removing an appendix, a cancer, a fingernail, or a zygote is not murder even though they are all human tissue.

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MT, I agree with you that Murder is Murder.
  And,
removing an appendix, a cancer, a fingernail, or a zygote is not murder even though they are all human tissue.

The difference is, they have no potential to develop into fully formed human beings.

Potential is a good word for this issue... they are not human beings, they have the potential to become human beings.  

Well potential is the right word.  MT is on target again.  But I still say if you are pro life then you must be against the death penalty as well because murder is murder.

Someone mentioned the needle exchange program earlier.  I support that program and have lent my name to it in print.  Unfortunately we still have to deal with the rvages of HIV AIDS.

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Someone mentioned the needle exchange program earlier.  I support that program and have lent my name to it in print.  Unfortunately we still have to deal with the rvages of HIV AIDS.

Good job!! Your handlers will be proud!
Just what the already overburdened taxpayers want to hear.....that their tax dollars are going for 'clean needles' for the scum drug addicts.......which was their CHOICE!!

Hell, the scum drug addict will continue to prostitue themselves, procreate and rob from hit to hit....but at least they won't get AIDS, huh? Oh hell, if they get pregnant, they can always obtain an abortion!!! AT THE TAXPAYER'S EXPENSE!

Yup....Jesus would give them free clean needles for sure!!!
OH....that's right, it was the government's decision!!!

As long as Planned Parenthood provides abortions, I will not - personally - support them in any way
shape or fashion.

Also, the argument that a fetus is somehow NOT a human being .. is so outdated and scientifically
incorrect.   If you support abortion -- at least have the intellectual honesty to admit that a fetus
is a human life.    Those who argue that the fetus is NOT a human life are no better than the slave
owners who claimed that black persons were not fully human or the  Hitler-era Germans who believed
that Jews were not fully human.

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Hitler-era Germans who believed
that Jews were not fully human.

Did you reference Hitler in an opposing argument with Boomer?  You pro-lifer must be a hate speech bigoted chauvanist.  Be prepared to be labeled.

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Did you reference Hitler in an opposing argument with Boomer?  You pro-lifer must be a hate speech bigoted chauvanist.  Be prepared to be labeled.

The fact is that this is what the "party line" belief was in Hitler-era Germany -- Jews, Poles, Gypsies, and
a whole long list of categories of people were believed to be less than human.

As for being falsely labeled -- you should know by now that I don't lose sleep over it.   I admit to
being opinionated  .. I try to back my opinions with as much factual information as I can .. and I try
to live by core principles.    
And I enjoy hanging around people who are willing to engage in a good debate of ideas -- I grew up
in a family with Dems and Reps and persons along every part of the political spectrum.   If you are
just going to agree with me -- you might be too boring.   If you try to tell me to keep my opinions to myself  -- well -- you know where the exit door is ..

DVR's stament was not bigotted or rascist.  It was on target.  I was a Holocaust educator for many years.  What he said was correct.  Yelling "Heil Hitler," is hate speech.  Cis not only are you incorrect--but quite the bully.