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ROTTERDAM TOWN BOARD
OCTOBER 13, 2010
AGENDA
7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
SUPERVISOR’S REPORT
Ceremonial Flag raising at 6:45 pm at Town Hall and
Presentation of Proclamation-Italian Heritage Month
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR FOR PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS
PERSONNEL:
Res. No.
NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. To amend §270-215 of Chapter 270 entitled “Erosion and Sediment Control”
and to amend §270-5 of Chapter 270 entitled “Definitions” of the Code of the
Town of Rotterdam.
B. To amend §270-151 of Chapter 270 entitled “Signs” and to amend §270-5 of
Chapter 270 entitled “Definitions” of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam.
PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS
Res. No
277.10 Adopt Local Law No. Eleven (11) of the Year 2010 for the following purpose:
To amend Chapter 266 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled,
“Vehicles and Traffic” as follows:
Install stop signs on Day Spring Court at its intersection with Puritan Drive
and Stacey Crest Drive.
Public Hearing was called for at Town Board meeting of September 8, 2010.
Public Hearing was held at Town Board meeting of September 22, 2010.
278.10 Authorize the purchase of replacement windows at the Rotterdam Senior Citizens
Center from Today’s Windows & Siding, 1392 Gifford Church Road, Rotterdam, New
York 12306 in an amount not to exceed $3,975.00. The funds have been donated from
the estate of Sally Hahn line item # A2705-2705.00, Senior out-reach program.
CONSENT ITEMS:
Res. No
279.10 Call for bids to be opened on November 3, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. at the John F. Kirvin
Government Center, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam, New York 12306 for the
purchase of “Police Vehicle Maintenance” for the Police Department for a two (2) year
period commencing January 1, 2011 through December 31, 2012.
280.10 Budget transfers by the Town Comptroller to various accounts.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC COMMENT PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR
(Per Resolution No. 444.06) G
General Rules of Procedure for Public Hearings & Privilege of the Floor:
Each speaker will state his/her name and address for the record. To ensure each attendee has an
equal and reasonable opportunity to address their concerns, he/she is afforded a maximum of four
(4) minutes to address the Town Board.
MISCELLANEOUS
ADJOURNMENT
FRANCIS DEL GALLO, Supervisor
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Cool -- some one donated money for new windows at the Senior Center  ....

just what I have said time and again ... when we THINK and ACT like a community  ... we can
accomplish good things


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It was done without the need for big government too.
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A lot can be done when a community works together --  that is the REAL MEANING of "Working Together
Works"  IMHO.

Last Spring the Challenger League revitalized the ballfields, clubhouse, and parking are at Woestina
Park -- the only cost to the town -- 3 or 4 blue plastic garbage receptacles.

Going forward with our Town's Vision 2020 Parks and Recreation Plan -- I am hoping that we can
see more of this type of community working together.

This is why I'd like to see a truly  multi-generational community center to replace the existing senior
center and boys & girls club.     By bringing together people of ALL ages -- we increase the possibility
of creating opportunities for people to volunteer to serve each other.   Retired folks working with young
people --- young people helping out the towns' seniors ... etc.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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This is why I'd like to see a truly  multi-generational community center to replace the existing senior
center and boys & girls club.     By bringing together people of ALL ages -- we increase the possibility
of creating opportunities for people to volunteer to serve each other.   Retired folks working with young
people --- young people helping out the towns' seniors ... etc.


Most, if not all of these young folks already have seniors in their own personal families that they 'volunteer' their time to.
Instead of making it a government entity.........how about keeping it 'in the family'??

It's 'already' being done every single day! Young folks are tending to their senior family members and neighbors, mowing lawns and shoveling driveways, just to name a few! You really need to get out more!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Most, if not all of these young folks already have seniors in their own personal families that they 'volunteer' their time to.
Instead of making it a government entity.........how about keeping it 'in the family'??

It's 'already' being done every single day! Young folks are tending to their senior family members and neighbors, mowing lawns and shoveling driveways, just to name a few! You really need to get out more!


I get out quite a bit.   While there are some young folks who interact with seniors -- the days of the
extended families all living in the same house or neighborhood is LONG gone.    I know from personal
experience ---  for years the descendents of my mother's father' father ALMOST ALL lived within about 3 miles of  the original family farm near County Line Rd.  The farthest cousins or second cousins ..lived in
the city of Schenectady and Princetown.    That situation doesn't exist anymore  -- just my 2 aunts,
my brother and I, and a 3 cousins  (and their families) are all that are left  IN the whole Capital District Region.

But getting back to a community center --- the senior center is in rough shape .. the boys and girls club
is in rough shape  .....  both are well over 60 years old --- they need to be replaced  with one center that
is handicapped accessible, has adequate space for large and small group events, and suitable facilities.

and not just for those under 18 and over 60 ... but truly something for residents of ALL ages


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This is an analogy for Rotterdam.  

Nobody wants to pay for the Corvette, we just keep on putting new rims on the Escort.  We talk about dog parks, senior centers, and boys and girls clubs, a county nusing home, all while the infrastructure is falling apart around us, and our sewer system is 40 years behind the times for a town this size.  What's next on the Agenda, buying new streetscape Christmas decorations?


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The parks and a community center are a part of the infrastructure of a town.  Since I am on the Parks
and Recreation Commission,  my focus is on the parks and a possible new community center.  

I will focus on the issues that  a) I am directly involved in and b) interest me the most.


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in·fra·struc·ture  audio  (nfr-strkchr) KEY

NOUN:

   1. An underlying base or foundation especially for an organization or system.
   2. The basic facilities, services, and installations needed for the functioning of a community or society, such as transportation and communications systems, water and power lines, and public institutions including schools, post offices, and prisons.
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Cool -- some one donated money for new windows at the Senior Center  ....

just what I have said time and again ... when we THINK and ACT like a community  ... we can
accomplish good things


That's great....and I'm not being sarcastic....but, let's not this be the norm for town planning as a whole....like SEWERS and such......
we cant sit around and wait anymore......the future is coming and so are the gangs....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Glenville's senior center is 'top notch'! Not only is it appealing to the eyes, it offers a much wider range of activities and trips!

Glenville Residents         $15 per person
Non-residents                $25 per person

There are many seniors from rotterdam going to glenville's senior center. check it out.........
http://www.townofglenville.org/Public_Documents/GlenvilleNY_senior/index


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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in·fra·struc·ture  audio  (nfr-strkchr) KEY

NOUN:

   1. An underlying base or foundation especially for an organization or system.
   2. The basic facilities, services, and installations needed for the functioning of a community or society, such as transportation and communications systems, water and power lines, and public institutions including schools, post offices, and prisons.


cool ... I see you figured out how to use an online dictionary

parks and a community center  are a basic facility and service needed for the functioning of a community

Our founding Fathers and Mothers --- laid out a "common area" or  "village green"  .. and built a
community center which acted as  church, school, and civic center  

Rotterdam needs a  general use park -- a "common area"  and a multigenerational community center to
bring us together.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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That's great....and I'm not being sarcastic....but, let's not this be the norm for town planning as a whole....like SEWERS and such......
we cant sit around and wait anymore......the future is coming and so are the gangs....


You know that I support putting in sewers ...  Rotterdam has intentionally passed up many opportunities to get Federal and State grants to offset the cost of sewer installation.

Some will say that these grants aren't needed and drive up the cost of government --- however from the
1970's through even the last stimulus ---- look how many BILLIONS of Federal and State dollars .. our
tax dollars ... were spent by other towns in other states ?????????        
What did Rotterdam get out of all of that ???   very little ---
at least during the Great Depression we got the   original part of the current Town Hall built


The Stimulus -- $800 billion divided by every American  --- multiplied by the 28,000 residents of Rotterdam
---- means that our town should have gotten about  $75 million (assuming that the money was FAIRLY
distributed per citizen)   --- for that kind of money we could have installed sewers all throughout the town
and bought ice cream sundaes for everyone  !!!!


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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It's plain to see why you're a Democrat by the way you interpret what you read. No where in the defination does it mention the word park and you can spin it all you want it's not a necessary service nor is a community center mentioned.
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It's plain to see why you're a Democrat by the way you interpret what you read. No where in the defination does it mention the word park and you can spin it all you want it's not a necessary service nor is a community center mentioned.


Since the definition says " facilities, services, and installations"  - but does not limit what those terms mean ..
I am free to define parks and community centers as infrastructure  ---- by the way ---- I think more people
think that parks and a community center are an essential element needed for the "functioning of the
community"   ... again I cite the two historical examples ... Among the first things our Forefathers  did was to
build  "meeting house= -- which was basically a community center ... and set aside a  "common area" -- which became the community's park  and gathering area.

So it is NOT just "spinning" .... and I believe most reasoning people would agree with my interpretation.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

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