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The President Without A Country
By Pat Boone


"We're no longer a Christian nation." - President Barack Obama, June 2009

" America has been arrogant." - President Barack Obama

"After 9/11, America didn't always live up to her ideals."- President Barack Obama

"You might say that America is a Muslim nation."- President Barack Obama, Egypt 2009

Thinking about these and other statements made by the man who wears the title of president. I keep wondering what country he believes he's president of.

In one of my very favorite stories, Edward Everett Hale's "The Man without a Country," a young Army lieutenant named Philip Nolan stands condemned for treason during the Revolutionary War, having come under the influence of Aaron Burr. When the judge asks him if he wishes to say anything before sentence is passed, young Nolan defiantly exclaims, "Damn the United States ! I wish I might never hear of the United States again!"

The stunned silence in the courtroom is palpable, pulsing. After a long pause, the judge soberly says to the angry lieutenant: "You have just pronounced your own sentence. You will never hear of the United States again.. I sentence you to spend the rest of your life at sea, on one or another of this country's naval vessels - under strict orders that no one will ever speak to you again about the country you have just cursed."

And so it was. Philip Nolan was taken away and spent the next 40 years at sea, never hearing anything but an occasional slip of the tongue about America. The last few pages of the story, recounting Nolan's dying hours in his small stateroom - now turned into a shrine to the country he foreswore - never fail to bring me to tears.  And I find my own love for this dream, this miracle called America , refreshed and renewed. I know how blessed and unique we are.

But reading and hearing the audacious, shocking statements of the man who was recently elected our president - a young black man living the impossible dream of millions of young Americans, past and present, black and white - I want to ask him, "Just what country do you think you're president of?"

You surely can't be referring to the United States of America , can you? America is emphatically a Christian nation, and has been from its inception! Seventy percent of her citizens identify themselves as Christian. The Declaration of Independence and our Constitution were framed, written and ratified by Christians. It's because this was, and is, a nation built on and guided by Judeo-Christian biblical principles that you, sir, have had the inestimable privilege of being elected her president.

You studied law at Harvard, didn't you, sir? You taught constitutional law in Chicago ?  Did you not ever read the statement of John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and an author of the landmark "Federalist Papers": " Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers - and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation - to select and prefer Christians for their rulers"?

In your studies, you surely must have read the decision of the Supreme Court in 1892: "Our lives and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian."

Did your professors have you skip over all the high-court decisions right up till the mid 1900's that echoed and reinforced these views and intentions?  Did you pick up the history of American jurisprudence only in 1947, when for the first time a phrase coined by Thomas Jefferson about a "wall of separation between church and state" was used to deny some specific religious expression - contrary to Jefferson 's intent with that statement?

Or, wait a minute: were your ideas about America 's Christianity formed during the 20 years you were a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ under your pastor, Jeremiah Wright?  Is that where you got the idea that " America is no longer a Christian nation"? Is this where you, even as you came to call yourself a Christian, formed the belief that  " America has been arrogant"?

Even if that's the understandable explanation of your damning of your country and accusing the whole nation (not just a few military officials trying their best to keep more Americans from being murdered by jihadists) of "not always living up to her ideals," how did you come up with the ridiculous, alarming notion that we might be "considered a Muslim nation"?

Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans? Out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians? Does that make us, by any rational definition, a "Muslim nation"?

Why are we not, then, a "Chinese nation"? A "Korean nation"? Even a "Vietnamese nation"? There are even more of these distinct groups in America than Muslims. And if the distinction you're trying to make is a religious one, why is America not "a Jewish nation"? There's actually a case to be made for the latter, because our Constitution - and the success of our Revolution and founding - owe a deep debt to our Jewish brothers.

Have you stopped to think what an actual Muslim America would be like? Have you ever really spent much time in Iran? Even in Egypt? You, having been instructed in Islam as a kid at a Muslim school in Indonesia and saying you still love the call to evening prayers, can surely picture our nation founded on the Quran, not the Judeo-Christian Bible, and living under Shariah law. Can't you? You do recall Muhammad's directives [Surah 9:5,73] to "break the cross" and "kill the infidel"?

It seems increasingly and painfully obvious that you are more influenced by your upbringing and questionable education than most suspected.  If you consider yourself the president of a people who are "no longer Christian," who have "failed to live up to our ideals," who "have been arrogant," and might even be "considered Muslim" - you are president of a country most Americans don't recognize.

Could it be you are a president without a country?

All who love their Christian Beliefs and their Country, please share with your family and friends


http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/patboone.asp


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Quoted from bumblethru
The President Without A Country
By Pat Boone


"We're no longer a Christian nation." - President Barack Obama, June 2009

" America has been arrogant." - President Barack Obama

"After 9/11, America didn't always live up to her ideals."- President Barack Obama

"You might say that America is a Muslim nation."- President Barack Obama, Egypt 2009



What Crap!
#1 The USA has NEVER been a "Christian Nation" and will never  be, as guaranteed by the US constitution.

#2 Self explanatory... Inventing WMD's so you can invade a country in a lame attempt to grab it's oil... Is arrogant.

#3 Torture is NOT one of America's Ideals... neither is spying on US citizens.

#4 America is a Muslim Nation??? Pat Boone twists quotes like a Fox News pro!

What Obama said was:
“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”
As per Snopes.com







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Once again Boxy has got the goods.  Stop putting up all that right-wing crap Bumble.  You're part of what's wrong with this county.
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It's a wonder you and Box can even walk leaning so far to the left.
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The United States of America was founded at a time when 99% of its residents were Christian --- I could
speak or write for hours --- outlining the fact that the USA was a Christian country in its origins .. and has
seen itself as a Christian country for most of its history.  

The Freedom of Religion portion of the Bill of Rights was meant PRIMARILY to keep Congress from
choosing one Christian denomination over any other Christian denomination as the "official" or "state
religion".    

It is a fact that in Massachusetts and a number of states .. that a person HAD to register as a member
of the local church in order to exercise the right to vote.    Massachusetts had that rule into the 1840's -
a full haf century after the adoption of the Bill of Rights.    

My ancestors on my father's mother's side of the family came over on the Mayflower -- but eventually left
Plymouth colony to help found Rhode Island  because they were NOT puritans and wanted to belong to
a different Christian church.    If you are ever on the bridge over Narragansett Bay from the western shore
of Rhode Island going to Newport --- you will drive over an island on which Jamestown, RI is located  .. that
is where my ancestor's homestead is still located.  They once owned the whole island and a large chunk of
the western shore of Rhode Island.     In fact, from the early 1700's until the time that the bridge over
Narragansett Bay was built ... descendents of my paternal grandmother's ancestors held the monopoly
on the ferry service crossing the Bay .. if you were traveling the Old Post Road  (US 1) .. you had to pay
them to take the ferry across the bay.    When the bridge was built the federal government and the state
reimbursed them for the loss of their ferry business/monopoly.


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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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#2 Self explanatory... Inventing WMD's so you can invade a country in a lame attempt to grab it's oil... Is arrogant.


Did they get the oil?  Maybe that was the "mission accomplished".  

I always wonder when you loons make this war for oil accusation.  Who exactly has the oil?


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Did they get the oil?  Maybe that was the "mission accomplished".  

I always wonder when you loons make this war for oil accusation.  Who exactly has the oil?


7% of our oil is currently coming from there.


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Did they get the oil?  Maybe that was the "mission accomplished".  

I always wonder when you loons make this war for oil accusation.  Who exactly has the oil?


The GW Bushy plan was to "Pay for the rebuilding of Iraq, with Iraqi oil ... that never happened either.

Bush/Cheney made a grab for Iraqi oil, and besides failing in establishing an Iraqi Democracy, they failed to grab the oil.
The citizens of Iraq were given the chance to repay the USA for "Liberating" Iraq with Iraqi oil contracts.  They showed their appreciation for an invasion and destruction of their country by awarding much of the Iraqi Oil contracts to Russia and China.
Once the Iraqis finally get the USA out of their country, I wouldn't be surprised if they shut the tap to all Iraqi oil to the invaders.



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Saying that the USA is a "christian nation" is like saying that the USA is a "Right Handed Nation".  Most Americans are Right Handed just as most Americans are Christian, but that is very different than designating  America as a "christian nation".

What sets the USA apart from many "Religious Nations", is that we are by law a Nation with out a designated religion.  Right wingers have said "Christian Nation" often enough that they began to believe their own BS.


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7% of our oil is currently coming from there.


Oh...Now I understand.  Where's the other 93% come from, and are we invading those countries next if right wingers win in 2012?


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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T. Boone Pickens on Iraqi Oil:

Reuters:
http://in.reuters.com/article/idINN2149238420091021


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Bush/Cheney made a grab for Iraqi oil, and besides failing in establishing an Iraqi Democracy, they failed to grab the oil.


Gee, Cheney is like the most powerful and most evil person in the WORLD according to libs.  Yet, he was unable to secure and drain the Iraqi oil fields after America defeated the Iraqi Army in a week.  Makes perfect logical sense...To a second grader.

We all know Obama has NO TROUBLE taking some of that oil money.  In the tune of $200K.  He's a very principled man.  


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A joint venture between the UK's Shell and Malaysia's Petronas oil companies has won the right to develop Iraq's giant Majnoon oil field.


THOSE DAMN MALAYSIAN'S!!!  Those greedy oil barons.  They were behind the invasion of Iraq.  Good going Box.  Good find!


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GW Bushy was a (Failed) oil man.  The reason we invaded Iraq was to secure a permanent tie to Iraqi oil.

GWB managed to get rid of Saddam... other than that, Bushy failed at every objective of the war.

There is NOT a democracy in Iraq. (The last  govt of Iraq was voted in over 7 months ago, and still hasn't formed a government. or taken office.

Iraq is NOT a stable democracy.  Bushy envisioned Iraq to be a beacon of Democracy... an example in the Middle East.

Contracts to Iraqi oil... or at least control over Iraq oil was the Bush/Cheney main objective of the war.  Total Fail


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