Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The discussion was about persons who had careers in both politics and a civil service type job.
Not people in the private sector.

The federal government and the state government are two entirely different employers, two different pension systems.\

So, if someone worked for GE, retired from GE and  is collecting a pension from gE  and then takes a job with the state, is there anything wrong with collecting a GE pension AND working for the stat at the same time?
And if that someone worked long enough for the state to get a pension from the state as well, is there a problem collecing the GE pension AND a state pension?

So, if someone worked for the state, retired from the state, and is collecting a pension from the state, and then take s ajob with GE, is there anything wrong with collecting a state pension AND working for GE at the same time?
And if that someone worked long enough for GE to get a pension from GE as well, is there a problem collecting the state pension AND a GE pension?


How about Joe Allen on the city council.  He retired from the state, collecting a pension from the state AND get's paid very generously from the taxpayers too.  Not to mention that Joe has health insurance paid IN FULL by the city taxpayers while he is a part time elected official.  The state provides very good insurance in retirement, and he would have individual coverage so he would NEVER have to pay more than 10% of the premium (which would cost probably no more than $700 a year) as a retiree of the state, and that premium would be further reduced by sick leave balance at retirement.  So, WHY is he enrolled in the health insurnace from the city?   Gee, because then he doesn't have to pay.  Why pay 10% of the premium enrolled in the plan as a state retiree when you can enroll in a plan that allows you to steal from the city taxpayers....remember the delinquent tax issues of this guy?  

Tonko DID retire from State government.  He is entitled to that pension NOW.  You folks need to get a life.  You all continue to have the fight of the "haves and the have nots."  Tonko is entitled just as McEneny is.  Stop the cry babying.

I believe that the ORIGINAL debate was whether a  "full time legislator"  (federal or state)
should also be allowed to collect a pension from a previous civil service or appointed public
sector job,  
Since both State Legislators and members of Congress  (both houses) are extremely well paid
and receive a boat load of extra benefits --   I see absolutely NO problem with making them
forgoe their publicly supported pension(s)  while serving as elected officials.

That goes for elected legislators from BOTH parties.

Then someone who is a CEO of one company and makes millions and is guaranteed a pension from that company, he or she should NOT collect a pension while working at another company.  And the multi million dollar CEO or other high level exec should never get pensions from two companies.  Must make a law about that.

Oh, you are talking "tax dollars."   Well, Tell us, how about Price Chopper and the Golub family, look at their wealth.  Why are the people of the city paying the property taxes for that building?  Heck Golub doesn't even bother to live in the city.  

How about Marcella's.  How about Villa Italia.  Those people are rich.  Why should their properties be tax exempt

Why should all these rich people been given tax dollars to build or move downtown?  They are rich, they can afford it, but instead the dems decide the we, well, the city people, have to pay their taxes.  Of course, our county taxes are higher to make up for the tax exemtpions.  Why?

Quite hypocritical to say that a public employee of one employer who works long enough to earn a pension should not be able to keep that pension while working in another totally different employer, just because thet pay is generous and it's paid for by the taxpayer.

But tell me if about who are worth a fortune, but the govt takes from the poor taxpayer and gives to these rich people who make far more than the combined pension and salary of state retirees turned federal elected people

Sorry --don't agree DVR

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The discussion was about persons who had careers in both politics and a civil service type job.
Not people in the private sector.

My friend got a retirement/pension from GE. Then went to work for the state where he now receives a pension from them also.Now he is also collecting his SS and is working as a consultant FOR THE STATE!!!

Quoted from Kevin March

Well, if people vote for the Constitutional Convention that can be pushed up here in New York State, we could make it an amendment to the New York State Constitution to at least stop the double dipping by adding a clause to say that if you return to work or retain another position which will give you the lifetime benefits, then the ones that you previously had are null and void.  I think that would be a great addition.  It's only legal because the people who make the laws don't want to take away thier own benefits and others don't want to get rid of them bad enough.

I know someone who worked at the Montgomery county nursing home and retired....IF they went back they cannot receive the salary
they left with while collecting retirement and they cannot ammend it either......but they have many years in Healthinsurance cost and
monthly pay.....ahhhhhh the future looks bright for the next generation....doesn't it........