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Russia opens China pipeline for Siberian oil
By Isabel Gorst in Moscow
Published: August 29 2010 18:00 | Last updated: August 29 2010 18:00

Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister, on Sunday opened a new pipeline to export east Siberian oil to China that will help Russia reorientate its oil trade towards the east.

The pipeline, running 67km from Skovorodino in east Siberia to China’s north-eastern frontier, is an offshoot of a new oil export route Russia is building to the Pacific Ocean, providing a strategic window on the fast-growing energy markets of Asia.


“This is a vital project for us as we begin to diversify our sales of strategic raw materials,” Mr Putin said. “So far we have delivered most oil to Europe ... The Asia-Pacific region has received insubstantial volumes.”

Russia began exporting oil this year from a new export terminal on the Pacific Ocean built to serve fields in east Siberia, one of the world’s last untapped oil provinces. Some Kremlin-friendly oil companies have been granted tax breaks to speed development of east Siberian reserves and offset a decline in production in other regions.

Transneft, the Russian oil pipeline monopoly, completed the construction of a pipeline from Taishet in the Irkutsk region to Skovorodino last year, the first stretch of a planned 2,757km pipeline to the Pacific. On completion in 2012, the pipeline will be capable of carrying up to 1.6m barrels of oil a day, about one-third of Russia’s current exports...............>>>>........................>>>>....................http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dd89374a-b38c-11df-81aa-00144feabdc0.html

and we won't let the oil companies "drill - baby - drill"

We will as it's somewhere that they can spill it in the water... and this has been since Carter, and NO ADMINISTRATION has fixed it since then.  HORRIBLE.

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We will as it's somewhere that they can spill it in the water... and this has been since Carter, and NO ADMINISTRATION has fixed it since then.  HORRIBLE.

Actually, I remember when there was an oil spill off Santa Barbara CA  when Nixon was president -- that
is when they started clamping down on off shore drilling.

The interesting thing .. is that Europe is much further ahead of us with energy efficiency.  How come
American companies don't utilize some of the ideas they have been using in Europe for years.
One example -- super insulated homes -- in northern Europe new homes are built with R-50 and R-60
insulation --  our "energy star" home building standards are a joke ..compared to the REAL energy
efficiency/conservation ideas being put into new homes built in Europe.

Well, we do live in Rotterdam, maybe we should all just install windmills!

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Well, we do live in Rotterdam, maybe we should all just install windmills!

actually not a bad idea --- some of the hills along the Mohawk River -- would be ideal for wind farm

of course .. another idea ... tap into all the "hot air" coming from this site  

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actually not a bad idea --- some of the hills along the Mohawk River -- would be ideal for wind farm

of course .. another idea ... tap into all the "hot air" coming from this site  

Or Town Hall...  You never know WHEN you'd get a surge in extra power.

Also, I was sort of being tongue in cheek with the windmills, since those went out of being the prime way of doing things centuries ago, in the ORIGINAL Rotterdam.  Why not hook something up to the dams to convert power?  Maybe have it as a local power company that helps to lower prices and the income can go to the town to help lower taxes, then we could even sell some of the energy for income back to National Grid.

Don't forget France that generates about 80% of it's power from nuclear energy.

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Or Town Hall...  You never know WHEN you'd get a surge in extra power.

Also, I was sort of being tongue in cheek with the windmills, since those went out of being the prime way of doing things centuries ago, in the ORIGINAL Rotterdam.  Why not hook something up to the dams to convert power?  Maybe have it as a local power company that helps to lower prices and the income can go to the town to help lower taxes, then we could even sell some of the energy for income back to National Grid.

Waterford and Cohoes are doing something like that along the Mohawk.    I say use hydropower on
the river .. and a wind farm up in the hills.    Solar panels on public buildings.

NIMBY

hydro power  - not enough verticlal drop
wind - the planes fly to low
nukes - we got one on the ALCO plant site look for the RPI sign
Solar Panels - Return on investment is too high even with gov't help given our location on the globe - trackers are the only way to get close to get the efficiencies needed or money is lost

our answer is cellulosic ethanol - homegrown moonshine for your car!

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NIMBY

hydro power  - not enough verticlal drop
wind - the planes fly to low
nukes - we got one on the ALCO plant site look for the RPI sign
Solar Panels - Return on investment is too high even with gov't help given our location on the globe - trackers are the only way to get close to get the efficiencies needed or money is lost

our answer is cellulosic ethanol - homegrown moonshine for your car!

It could be fun on the weekends......