NEW YORK – Talat Hamdani traveled to Mecca to pray that her missing son, an EMT, was safe in the days after 9/11. She held out hope that his Muslim background had led to his detention as a suspect, considering it better than the alternative.
When part of his body was returned to her — his lower half shattered into 34 pieces — it was final proof he had indeed been killed when Islamic extremists brought down the World Trade Center. As Americans take sides over plans to build an Islamic cultural center and mosque blocks away, Hamdani says it feels personal.
"Why are we paying the price? Why are we being ostracized? Our loved ones died," she said at her Lake Grove, N.Y., home. "America was founded on the grounds of religious freedom," and opposition to the cultural center "is un-American. It's unethical. And it is wrong."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
When Muslims become more friendly to other religions and allow Christians to build churches in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq and become more tolerant of other religions then maybe they have a complaint as to why they should be allowed to build a Mosque near ground zero. They will also have to forget the idea that the USA should allow Sharia Law to be used here.
This women seems to be misinformed. It isn't opposition to the cultural center, it's the location.
Geez, more half truths from the propaganda wing of the Democrat party.
I agree. That's why I couldn't even bring myself nor waste my time responding to such straw grabbing bullcrap!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
When Muslims become more friendly to other religions and allow Christians to build churches
Most countries with majority Muslim populations allow all other religions to practice in their country.
I guess what Shadow is trying to say is that the US Constitution only applies to Americans who's religion have similar policies. "Selective Freedom Of Religion"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
For the third time the Constitution only says that the Mosque can be built it does not say that it can be built anywhere they want to build it. No one wants to deny Muslims the right to build their Mosque but object to the location of it. Which Muslim countries in the middle east would allow me to build a Christian church,how about in Mecca, last I knew if you even teach Christianity in a Muslim country you can be killed. The church group were killed because the Taliban thought they were teaching religion in their country.
This women seems to be misinformed. It isn't opposition to the cultural center, it's the location.
The "location" acceptable to build a mosque keeps getting smaller and smaller. Right Wingers are now attempting to block Mosques in NYC, Florence, Kentucky, Temecula California, Murfreesboro Tennessee and more.
~ "It's not the Mosque, it's the location" ~... is the Right Wing argument in every one of these new Mosques.
Freedom of Religion (as long as your a Christian)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Maybe if Muslims practiced the peaceful form of Islam instead of letting 10% of the Muslim population hijack their religion people would be much more supportive of their endeavors to build their Mosques anywhere they wanted to. As long as some Mosques are allowed to teach hate and terror it will give all Muslims a black eye. Muslims must clean out the bad element from their ranks.
For the third time the Constitution only says that the Mosque can be built it does not say that it can be built anywhere they want to build it. No one wants to deny Muslims the right to build their Mosque but object to the location of it.
So you buy a piece of land...you want to build a church.... you meet all the local codes, and have the project approved. You are ready to build. Then Shadow shows up and says "You can't build there because I object to your religion"... " Your Religion offends me"... "You can build your church anywhere, except only where it doesn't offend me"...
If you own the land and meet all codes... Build the church and screw what Shadow thinks.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box I love how you spin things around, nobody objects to anyones religion just where the building is to be built. If I wanted to preach my religion outside of a Mosque in Mecca, let alone put up a building, would I be allowed to do it. Why does the Muslim faith teach their followers to kill anyone who does not believe as they do?Why does every other country where Muslims immigrate have to allow them to practice their faith yet Muslim countries deny other religions the same right?
I think most people agree the Mosque can be built near the WTC site after getting the proper permits and approvals. The debate is, SHOULD IT?
I refuse to believe that the organizers don't understand the reasons for the objections. If they do, and still go ahead and build it, then its fair to question their true intentions and also to question whether they are truly practicing the peaceful and compassionate side of their religion.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Why does every other country where Muslims immigrate have to allow them to practice their faith yet Muslim countries deny other religions the same right?
BECAUSE THE USA HAS FREEDOM OF RELIGION, THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES DON'T.
GOT IT???
WE ARE BETTER THAN THOSE COUNTRIES... WE ALLOW ALL RELIGIONS TO PRACTICE HERE!
MUSLIM IS *N O T* A COUNTRY... IT'S A RELIGION! GOT IT???
YOU PROPOSE WE CHANGE TO BE JUST LIKE THEM. (Thank God for the US Constitution... to keep us safe from people like Shadow!)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Most countries with majority Muslim populations allow all other religions to practice in their country.
And most of those Muslim majority countries are an Islamic state or have Islam as the official state Religion. Are you trying to tell me there is NO state sponsored discrimination against non-muslims in those countries? If you are, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
It makes little difference to me what other countries policy is in regard to restricting religion...it has no bearing on what the USA does or should do.
The USA has a US Constitutional guaranteed right to freedom of religion... regardless of what other countries practice.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So you buy a piece of land...you want to build a church.... you meet all the local codes, and have the project approved. You are ready to build. Then Shadow shows up and says "You can't build there because I object to your religion"... " Your Religion offends me"... "You can build your church anywhere, except only where it doesn't offend me"...
If you own the land and meet all codes... Build the church and screw what Shadow thinks.
So if I buy a piece of land that I find out later is a sacred American Indian burial ground, and I am planning to build a museum honoring American Pioneers and the Louis and Clark expedition, and the Native American Tribe for which this land is considered sacred makes a plea to me NOT to build it because of the sacred meaning of that land. I should thumb my nose at them and not understand why this would be insensitive, and say screw you American Indian I can legally build here, you are a bigot for even asking me to not build here.
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