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Obama, Democrats are destroying the nation

    Do you like what socialism is doing to New York and the nation? All these programs, we’re told, are intended to help the people, and yet in truth are enslaving them to a political party.
    Think about this: The president is a Democrat and has been in offi ce 18 months. The U.S. House and Senate for four years have been controlled by the Democratic Party. In 18 months, they have bankrupted us to the point we have had to turn to China to borrow billions of dollars.
    The Wall Street and banks’ implosion was the next problem. In truth, “greed” was the problem, and the Obama solution was to throw trillions of dollars at it. Eighteen months later, they’re still working on the solution. Why didn’t government give every legitimate American family $100,000? Those people would have stimulated the economy — and it would have cost us less!
    At the same time, the government took over the automobile industry and formed a partnership with the auto workers’ union. Then massive unemployment sent many of us to the sidelines. No work, but the “stimulus package” was going to bring employment back — and Congress threw billions at the problem. Employment didn’t improve until the government hired the census workers. Shortly they will be unemployed. It’s going to take years, not weeks, to bring our economy back.
    Then came the Gulf oil spill. The last time we had a spill like this, Noah built himself a boat. Instead of concentrating on grabbing for BP’s money, Obama should have concentrated on stopping the oil flow. The government’s response has been worse than for [Hurricane] Katrina.
    What concerns me most is Mr. Obama’s mishandling [of] Afghanistan. He’s escalated the war because he needs a win. Our diplomatic team there is a disaster; it’s understandable that [Gen. Stanley] McChrystal was frustrated. There are about 150,000 troops in Afghanistan; the same number the Russians had for the 10 years they fought there. Russia didn’t win. Is Afghanistan Obama’s Vietnam?

    PETER PENO
    Schenectady

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What a moron.  
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According to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions.

From 2001 through 2005 alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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How much has the Obama administrationm spent in the last 18 months?
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Obama has spent record amounts to counter and reverse the Bush Economic Meltdown of 2007.

Bush borrowed (mostly from China) $105trillion in 2001-2005... in relatively GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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That darn Bush made Obama force that very expensive health-care bill down our throats, Bush made Obama give 2 billion dollars to drill for oil in Brazil, Bush made Obama pass the stimulus and omnibus bills that were nothing more than a redistribution of wealth to his poor friends that got him elected. I had no idea how powerful that Bush is even though he's been out of office for 18 months. Where do you think Obama is borrowing money from Greece?
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Shadow,
Every time you hear facts about your hero GWB, You run and hide behind the "Blame Every Thing On Bush" mantra.

Once again,
BUSH BORROWED $105 TRILLION FROM CHINA IN GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES!
Not in a recession, not to stabilize the stock market, not for health care... not to keep American companies from going bankrupt...
~BUSH BORROWED TO FUND A TAX CUT FOR THE RICH!~

The result... The Bush Economic Meltdown that Obama and the next several future presidents will have to repair.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box you won't admit that your hero is giving 2 billion dollars to Brazil to drill for oil when he wants to ban deep water drilling in the USA, why would he do that. Obama wasn't forced to shove health-care down our throats because of anything Bush did, admit it and take responsibility for what your idol has done.
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OK Shadow...
I only know what I've read in the papers about the $2billion to Brazil... but I assume it's true.
Obama, along with most modern presidents have supported universal health care.
Teddy Roosevelt's Presidential Campaign of 1912, supported Universal Health care for Americans.
Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton all supported Universal Health Care for America.

So now I've "admitted it"!!!


Now to the point you seem to have trouble with and the subject of this thread..."Borrowing Money from China".  

BUSH BORROWED $105 TRILLION FROM CHINA IN GOOD ECONOMIC TIMES!
Not in a recession, not to stabilize the stock market, not for health care... not to keep American companies from going bankrupt...
~BUSH BORROWED TO FUND A TAX CUT FOR THE RICH!~






The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I never approved of all the spending GW Bush did in his 8 year reign especially the TARP bail out, I wanted to let the greedy banks go under and maybe the next time they would adopt a safe way of doing business. I was opposed to Bush's plan for immigration and I'm still opposed to amnesty for immigrants that are here illegally. On a plus note Bush kept us safe for 8 years but with this administration in office I don't feel so safe with our borders wide open and them making nice with our enemies assuming that our enemies will like us.
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Conservatives seem to have a VERY SELECTIVE MEMORY!

I've heard this BS, "Bush Kept Us Safe for 8 Years" (often said with a straight face)  AS IF IT WERE TRUE!

OK, just so we understand each other... The worst terrorist attack on the United States of America happened under George Worst Bush's presidency.  
RIGHT?  Anyone disagree???

So far in his presidency, Barack Obama has kept the United States SAFE from terror attacks 19 months longer than GWB did!

I personally don't blame GWB for the Sept 11th attacks... but IT HAPPENED UNDER HIS PRESIDENCY... so please, don't keep preaching the HE KEPT US SAFE BS!  
(Just because you hear this propaganda on Fox or on Druggy Rush, doesn't mean that you have to actually believe it or repeat it!)  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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By your logic then Obama is responsible for the oil spill even though he had nothing to do with it. We have had too many near miss terrorist attacks on our own soil since Obama took office, sooner or later one will succeed as the law of averages is against us this is not propaganda but fact.
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Your posts do seem to bounce around a lot.  Changing the subject seems to be your method of discussion.

YOU POSTED: Bush Kept Us SAFE for 8 Years.
It isn't true. He DIDN'T

In that post I said that I didn't blame Bush for the Sept 11 attacks... no one in the USA was watching, even though there was adequate intelligence to warn that an attack was imminent.
There were several attack attempts on the USA while Bush was President...

I don't blame Obama for the BP spill just as I don't blame Bush for the Sept11 attacks.

As I posted... the "Bush Kept Us Safe For 8 Years" takes a lot of selective memory.
Consider these events:
Sept-Oct 2001: Anthrax attacks  on Congress, NY govt offices, media.

Dec 12, 2001: Foiled plot by Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel to blow up mosque in Culver City, CA, and office of Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA).

Dec 22, 2001: Shoe Bomber Richard Reid fails to blow up AA Flt 63.

July 4, 2002: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet kills 2 at the El Al ticket counter at LAX.

Oct 2002: Beltway Snipers John Allen Muhammed and Boyd Lee Malvo kill 10; Malvo later testifies attacks motivated by "jihad."

April 2003: White supremacists William Krar, Edith Bruey foiled in the Tyler Poison Gas Plot with huge stockpile of cyanide, 100 conventional bombs, and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.

June 5, 2003: John Noster arrested in LA w/cache of pipe bombs, jet fuel, weapons, and assorted books alleging a worldwide socialist conspiracy.

March 3, 2005: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azana drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus at UNC at Chapel Hill, injuring 9.

April 3, 2006: Allen Weatherford arrested in MN with cache of weapons, detonation devices, fuel oil, and fertilizer intended to blow up a local courthouse.

July 28, 2006: Naveed Haq kills 1 and hospitalizes 5 in a shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle.

Aug 30, 2006: Omeed Aziz Popal kills 1 and injures 17 in SUV rampage that began in Fremont, CA, and ended at the Jewish Community Center of SF.

Dec 22, 2006: Derrick Shareef’s "violent jihad" attack on an Illinois shopping mall disrupted by feds.

Feb 12, 2007: Sulejman Talović opens fire at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City, killing 5, injuring 4, while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"

July 27, 2008: Jim Adkisson opens fire with a shotgun at a Unitarian Church service because he "hates left-wing liberals," killing 2 and wounding 7.

Then consider the4400 Americans Killed in the Unnecessary, Optional war in Iraq. Bush Didn't keep Them Safe!

The USA is constantly under attack from terrorists, domestic and foreign... Bush hardly kept us SAFE!


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The examples that your quoting are just an average day of violence in Chicago not an organized terrorist attack by Muslim Fanatics who are trying to kill as many of us as they can. I'll concede this one  Dec 22, 2001: Shoe Bomber Richard Reid fails to blow up AA Flt 63 but the rest of your examples are pure unadulterated BS. Most of your examples describe nut jobs just out to kill anyone they can and unless you can prove that all those attacks were organized by the Taliban or other terrorist groups they are just violent acts of lunatics.
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So your war is only against MUSLIMS...
If a group of Tennessee RedNeck Militia kill a bus full of Muslims, it's ok with you because a Muslim didn't do it.
Or
If a Christian like  Timothy McViegh blows up another building in Oklahoma city... it's just another crime, not terrorism.

Let me know how your war against ALL MUSLIMS works out for ya.  Muslims make up 1/4 of the worlds population and is the fastest growing religion in the world.

Instead of waging war on ALL MUSLIMS... why not try waging war on ALL TERRORISTS... I think it might have a better chance of success.
But,
If your aim is religious bigotry... then stay your course.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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