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GrahamBonnet
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...where do the local democraps/liberals stand? For Israel's right to self-defense or for the terrorists? Just wondering.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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that certainly isn't a good situation over there - and I'm not quite sure how "we" can make it better.  We've promised to "defend" Israel, but from media reports so FAR, it seems like they provoked it this time
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How wrong you are. The terrorist supporters send these boats through a blockade, and Israel retains a right to make sure no arms are coming ashore (or Jihadis) and they also reserve a right to board and inspect. The ship was requested to allow inspectors aboard and they resisted. They did not provoke an incident. The crazed and mad dogs aboard the so-called 'aid ship" savagely attacked the Israeli military personnel as it boarded. A strong America that stands WITH Israel would be a good start at having world peace, but unfortunately we have a pro-terrorist militant administration made up of virulent left wingers in the guise of democraps running our foreign policy. So with the assistance of the American Jewish community, I would expect to see Israel completely dismembered while this far-left, pro-terror regime in Washington sits by giving tacit approval to the dirty deed. These are the things that bring about war- weakness and vacillation. Meanwhile we have a whole generation of American Jews just being "OK" with Israel being taken down, because they have been taught to embrace their inner left wing before embracing their Judaism and what the have in common with their Israeli brethren. This is a disgrace.


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Eyewitnesses recount Israel flotilla raid
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 1, 2010 12:11 p.m. EDT

Released U.S. activist recounts raid
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Passenger says shots were fired before Israeli commandos boarded ship
Israel says its forces started shooting after passengers assaulted them
Zoabi said she saw five dead bodies during the hour-long military operation
Another witness said a bag was placed over her head

(CNN) -- Some of the first accounts emerged Tuesday from eyewitnesses who were aboard several boats stormed by Israeli forces as they approached Gaza the day before.
Hanin Zoabi, a member of the Israeli parliament, was on board the Miva Marmara, the ship that was the scene of a confrontation between activists and Israeli soldiers. That clash left at least nine people dead.
The Israeli Navy fired on the ships five minutes before commandos descended from ropes that dangled from helicopters, Zoabi said during a press conference in Nazareth, Israel. She said passengers on board the ship were unarmed.................>>>>..........................>>>>............http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/01/gaza.raid.eyewitnesses/index.html?hpt=T2
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Israel: Global Jihad Linked to Flotilla
Posted By Dana Lewis On June 2, 2010 @ 3:35 AM

Israeli defense officials now say dozens of passengers who were aboard the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara, the scene of a bloody showdown with Israeli commandos Monday, are suspected of having connections to terrorist organizations. The Israeli Army says it's identified 50 passengers on the ship with terrorist links.

It's known the flotilla of 6 ships was in part organized by the IHH group in Turkey, which reportedly has links to Al Qaeda. And three members of Yemen's Parliament, from the Islah Party, were also among the more than 600 activists detained by Israel after ships refused to stop for Israeli patrol boats and were boarded by Israeli Navy SEALs who eventually opened fire, killing 9 people. The Islah party is also said to have shadowy links to Al Qaeda. Both groups certainly support the Hamas organization in Gaza.

Israel believes the larger danger is that Turkey, a NATO ally, is becoming a foe of the U.S. and Israel. Israel's intelligence Chief, Meir Dagan, told top government ministers here that Turkish President Recip Tayyip Erdogan has "a dream of returning Turkey's dominance through going down the Islamic hall." He cites Turkey's warmer relations with the Palestinians and Hamas, and improving relations with Syria, Iran and others. Dagan described a new anti-Israel coalition. Turkey facilitated the flotilla and the Marmara is Turkish-flagged.

When Israeli commandos lowered themselves onto the deck of the Marmara they met a violent mob armed with bats, steel bars, knives -- and even guns ripped from Israeli troops who were beaten to the point they feared for their lives. Four of the Israelis were set upon, stabbed and shot, and are still in the hospital. Why then did Israel then send its Naval commandos down to the Marmara, armed mainly with paintball guns, into what was clearly much more than a mission of crowd control? The answer is Israeli commanders now admit it was a case of "bad equipment, bad tactics, and bad intelligence."

Had the team boarding the ship not been lowered one by one to be quickly overwhelmed by violent activists, had they been trained in crowd control, the outcome may have been much different, spared the bloody ending that now has the international community in uproar................>>>>.................>>>>.................http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/06/02/israel-global-jihad-linked-to-flotilla/
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Good article about newly weakened and neutered nation (thanks to historically wimpish democraps who embraced the Soviet Union and now are embracing the Jihadis.)

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/n.....EWK5jJ#ixzz0phPKSy8o


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This is the mouthpiece of the democrap media. Shame on American Jewry for backing these thugs and historical revisionists, and putting them into power just so they can dismantle and destroy the only democracy in the Middle East. A giant middle finger to the liberals is what I have tonight. I stand with Israel even if American Jews en mass decide to be better socialists first and Jews second.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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A Saudi Sheikh was funding this ship. The UNION OF GOOD is the name of the organization the Sheikh is associated with. The UNION OF GOOD is  known to be associated with terrorist groups. The condemnation of Israel, to defend itself and it's citizens is not only premature but horrific!!  And last I knew....Israel 'owns' the Gaza. But is controlled by Hamas. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

The Israeli's are far from stupid. They are clearly not a third world country. Not to mention they are our strongest allies. Netenyahou (sp) is an American educated man who will not put up with any sh!t. I stand by Israel and their right to defend itself.

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http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/html/final/eng/sib/2_05/funds.htm

The Union of Good (‘I’tilaf al-Khayr)

      The Union of Good is an umbrella organization representing more than 50 Islamic fundraising groups worldwide. Originally established for the purpose of aiding Palestinians in the PA-administered territories, its operations began in October 2000, shortly after the outbreak of the ongoing violent Palestinian-Israeli confrontation. It started as a fundraising drive designed to run for 101 days, however, following its initial success it institutionalized and continues its work to this day (January 2005). Hamas leadership was involved in its foundation.

      The UG is composed of Islamic funds and foundations operating worldwide, some of them Hamas-affiliated designated organizations outlawed by Israel (such as the Palestinian Relief and Development Fund – Interpal in Britain, the Union’s main organization; the CBSP in France, etc.) and other radical Islamic organizations (their names appear in Appendix D). Since the Union’s founding, its member organizations transfer funds for Hamas institutions in the PA-administered territories in two ways: either independently or through the Union, which sometimes serves as a contractor for such transfers.

      To optimize its organizational efficiency, the UG divided the PA-administered territories into four districts. In three of them it works with a number of Hamas organizations and institutions through one of its dominant organizations, which serves as a coordinator. For example, Hamas-affiliated Al-Tadhamun (“solidarity”) in Nablus coordinates UG-Hamas activities in the northern West Bank through an organization called the North [West-] Bank Coordinating Committee. Al-Tadhamun is headed by sheikh Hamid Bitawi, a leading Hamas activist and one of the three West Bank representatives on the Union’s board of trustees. The two others are senior Hamas activists from Ramallah and Hebron.



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Helen Thomas issued the following statement today: “I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.”


http://hotair.com/archives/201.....-of-palestine-thing/
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LOL - on the web at   hot air .com - she's full of it, just as much as Mr Obama.  Time for both to retire
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Can you imagine what would have happened if she said....'tell the blacks to get the hell out'.....OR.....'tell the hispanics to get the hell out'!   She surely would have been fired on the spot!

I guess Jews and Christians are open game these days!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Can you imagine what would have happened if she said....'tell the blacks to get the hell out'.....OR.....'tell the hispanics to get the hell out'!   She surely would have been fired on the spot!

I guess Jews and Christians are open game these days!


100% agree with you Benny ... that's ok. We've survived for thousands of years before these politically correct wannabes, we'll be here long after they're gone.  The difference is, we're not afraid to die for our beliefs - can they say the same?
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The difference is, we're not afraid to die for our beliefs - can they say the same?

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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