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Box A Rox
May 18, 2010, 2:02pm Report to Moderator

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Isn't it funny how when it was Iraq, it was called 'Bush's war' and was discussed on every liberal media outlet daily.

Now, afghanistan is 'Obama's war' and the liberal media goes silent.

All I can say is may God bless our soldiers!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Brad Littlefield
May 18, 2010, 2:23pm Report to Moderator
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Now that we have a Democrat President and Congress, the media has discontinued coverage of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, reporting casualty counts, and asking the important and to date unanswered questions.  President Obama escalated the campaign by deploying thousands more troops to the Afghanistan & Pakistan regions.  Have Americans been informed of the objectives of the mission, the rules of engagement and, most importantly, the exit criteria and strategy?  Is this an open-ended commitment?  Do the American people have the courage, the conviction, and the commitment required to fight and win?  Does the President and the cabinet have the best interests and the welfare of our patriotic sons and daughters in mind?

The Bush Administration was "dogged" by the MSM who refused to accept his defined exit criteria for the Iraq War.  Does Obama deserve a pass on the important questions about this admininstration's military campaign?  

And, thank you to Box A Rox for keeping this important issue in the forefront of our minds.  Our military and veterans deserve our respect, our gratitude and our prayers.
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bumblethru
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  Does Obama
deserve a pass on the important questions about this admininstration's military campaign?  


I question isn't 'if he deserves a pass'. The fact is that he got it!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Stein
May 18, 2010, 2:38pm Report to Moderator
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/18/afghan.blast/index.html?hpt=T2

You're right, you never hear about it!


And no where can we find anything about an exit strategy --- http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/us.afghanistan.karzai/index.html

How about you idiots stop sticking to fox news and actually vary your source so you get information, not biased ranting.

/sarcasm off
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Brad Littlefield
May 18, 2010, 3:18pm Report to Moderator
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I didn't say an arbitrary deadline, for which Democrats are reknown, that brings some troops home before Obama's reelection campaign begins.  I said exit criteria.  What objectives have to be satisfied prior to beginning the withdrawal of troops.  And, let us think beyond the media sound bytes like "a stable and safe Afghanistan".
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I didn't say an arbitrary deadline, for which Democrats are reknown, that brings some troops home before Obama's reelection campaign begins.  I said exit criteria.  What objectives have to be satisfied prior to beginning the withdrawal of troops.  And, let us think beyond the media sound bytes like "a stable and safe Afghanistan".


Why? Why should the criteria be made public?  If the president spoke on that to the voters, he is also speaking to the world.  
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Sombody
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As usual the resident politicians like you Brad  - look to someone to blame  for the 1,000 Dead Americans in Afghanistan killed with bullets the Taliban bought with the money we gave them.

Opium is still seen as just one means of financing religious fanatics.  If you are a venture capital investor, investing in Afghanistan/Pakistan in poppy seeds is the way to go.

If Harvard were to issue a degree in ending the war-  course 101 would be on "cutting the funding for your enemy" - Wake up conservatives


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Brad Littlefield
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I agree with you Sombody, that the opium trade is an issue that needs to be addressed.  I recently read a news article that stated that many Afghanis have lost their employment in the cities and have returned to the country to farm opium.

This is no different from the drug wars that the US is facing at our southern borders.  When drug smugglers can make more money transporting
drugs across the border and engaging in other illegal activities (e.g., kidnapping, murder, etc.), rather than in working a legitimate and productive job,
there will be no satisfactory end to the situation.  The question is, who is responsible for the development of Afghanistan's and Mexico's economies?
I don't believe that it is the United States' role.  
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Box A Rox
May 19, 2010, 9:35am Report to Moderator

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Iraq is George W Bush's war.
Candidate Barack Obama repeatedly promised to pull US troops out of Iraq in 16 months(August 2010). He would leave a contingent of troops to advise Iraqis and protect US interests.
The complete withdrawal of American forces will take place by December 2011, the period by which the U.S. agreed with Iraq to remove all troops.
Iraq was a totally unnecessary optional war fought to control Mid East oil.
BUSH LOST.

George W Bush entered Afghanistan to kill or capture BinLaden and AlQaeda... Secondarily, to eliminate the Taliban who sponsored AlQaeda. Bush then abandoned this war to chase Iraqi Oil.
Again, Bush failed miserably. Not one of the stated objectives of the war were accomplished.
BUSH LOST.

IMO, one year after taking office, Bush's war in Afghanistan is now Obama's war. The original objective of killing or capturing BinLaden is still possible but unlikely. Unless there is a change in the next few months, there is little hope of attaining our objectives.
It's time to leave.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Stein
May 19, 2010, 12:47pm Report to Moderator
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Iraq will end long before Afghanistan. In the latter, we will be helping them fight the Taliban for a long time.  An unstable Afghan though makes a nuclear Pakistan vulnerable.  Otherwise I would agree BoxARox.
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