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Stein you are like a sheep going to slaughter and can't see what's coming and what government is capable of doing to people. First of all most of the money spent on health-care is spent on the older people who have serious illnesses. In order to cut down on the expense of health-care the only way you can do it is to ration the services that are provided and eliminate the expensive and what the panel deems unnecessary test currently being done. Unfortunately the brunt of the cuts will be to the elderly citizens thru their Medicare and Medicaid programs. This is not a scare tactic this is reality. Medicare providers and suppliers could be subject to significant payment cuts if the proposed IPAB is enacted and overall Medicare spending continues to increase at its current rate.  A group of providers and advocacy groups, including the American Hospital Association, joined in a January 11, 2010, letter opposing the IPAB, noting that it would not be accountable to anyone but the president (who appoints its members). Shifting payment authority from Congress to an independent commission would be a significant change, and is viewed as one of the most meaningful measures in health reform legislation with respect to bending the cost curve in health spending.
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Sorry, I still think its a good thing.  That Medicaid pays for things like diapers and baby wipes amazes me.  I like the idea of an oversight committee to stop stupid spending or cut where needed.
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But one thing to keep in mind is that all through the Bush years, the cost of prosecuting the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and occupations was kept "off budget" and these colossal expenses were funded through supplemental appropriations. With the new administration, in order to present a fairer picture of the actual outlays by the government, Obama included the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan in the federal budget. So just be aware that when you locate some numbers, you are probably going to be looking at and comparing apples and oranges.


So Bush spent it all on war...Obama is spending it on health care for all.  I will choose healthcare.


at least you have a choice to line up in battle......healthcare and healthinsurance are apples and oranges......healthcare is your choice, and health insurance used to be and
now it will not be......just like captialism when a company makes choices is shaves off....dont think for a minute the taxpayer wont want to shave off the 'dead weight' in
the national health insurance system......BTW...the government doesn't 'borrow money'......they shake it down, by changing rules from the past or having it printed.....



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I dont need an oversight board....I WANT my health insurance that I pay for by working and giving the company I work for a good days work........why bother to excel when I dont have to make an effort...my
neighbor will pick up my slack.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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