Tippy you are right. I don't believe they really care. They just b**ch, then shrug and go on with their lives. ST was the only Supervisor who was truly concerned about his town and he is out. FDG runs because he pays too much in taxes and wins. Now instead of taking this town forward we are going to see it go backwards, big time! ST and his team kept the county out of our town but now this crew will allow them in gladly and we will suffer.
Why do these people have this petition going? Why are they against it? Just curious!
My thoughts exactly. I can understand why Galesi and his crew would want to sign this but the people who are residents with no political connection...why would they sign it? Do they even know the facts? This is very similar to the comments made in support of BI's rezone at the TB meeting last week. There was several people who spoke in favor of the rezone and they had no connection to the immediate neighborhood... they were simply cheerleaders for BI. Signing a petition has a meaning...don't abuse it!
And it doesn't matter what you sign or say, the current administration doesn't listen to the residents or answer any questions! They vote as they are directed by their party leader(s).
Tippy you are right. I don't believe they really care. They just b**ch, then shrug and go on with their lives. ST was the only Supervisor who was truly concerned about his town and he is out. FDG runs because he pays too much in taxes and wins. Now instead of taking this town forward we are going to see it go backwards, big time! ST and his team kept the county out of our town but now this crew will allow them in gladly and we will suffer.
Point taken....but where are all of these reps that 'love this town'? Are they still hiding behind their defeat? Pissed at the residents for not choosing them? Trying to teach the residents a lesson?
Let me tell you all something....even when the reps were in charge and held the majority...the dems were still at the meetings and still vocalized their opposition.
So it appears that the reps will just sit back, hoping the dems will make a shamble of rotterdam (which they probably will)......just to teach the residence a lesson. That's really concerned about their town.
Well, that's my take on it!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
To me, this is a quality of life issue. In addition to him not following the laws and attempting to get a grandfathered zone change, Zhang's complex has been accused of being unsafe - I've heard of tenants being evicted even though their apartments haven't been fixed to the point of being dangerous. I've heard of increased criminal activity in the area, and all the issues with the school.
We all pay town and school taxes. If it's affecting our school district - why shouldn't we sign?! If the sewer hookup affects our town infrastructure, what shouldn't we sign?!
If we simply have an opinion about the cause, WHY SHOULDN'T WE SIGN?!
To me, this is a quality of life issue. In addition to him not following the laws and attempting to get a grandfathered zone change, Zhang's complex has been accused of being unsafe - I've heard of tenants being evicted even though their apartments haven't been fixed to the point of being dangerous. I've heard of increased criminal activity in the area, and all the issues with the school.
We all pay town and school taxes. If it's affecting our school district - why shouldn't we sign?! If the sewer hookup affects our town infrastructure, what shouldn't we sign?!
If we simply have an opinion about the cause, WHY SHOULDN'T WE SIGN?!
sign?????
where the "F" is code enforcement????
what do we pay them for?????
Oh, they are too busy at town hall.
Talking to each other is better than talking about each other
The reps are still around and if Gerard needs help from us he will ask. I do not want to politicize TB meetings. We have had enough of politics. We need people that just have a genuine concern for the town, not what it will do personally for them or what the party players want.
That being said, I believe that the R3 zoning for this former military housing is not keeping with the intent of the comprehensive plan. The vision was to continue to cluster common uses areas together. Meaning keep light industrial together in this case. Just because it was not used for light industrial for the last 50 years doesn't mean it should not be used for that purpose today. The property across the street is zoned for business, not residential.
Think to the recent problems we have had with zone change requests for business/commercial adjacent to residential arareas. It's caused quite a stir and understandably so. Why would we now change an area already zoned light industrial into R3 and smack in the middle of business and more light industrial.
The comp plan of 2001 cautioned against this type of zoning problem. We need to keep light industrial together. We need the tax base to support all the residential areas and services that cost lots of $$ to support.
Apparently the school did not provide a student count from when the military families lived in the complex to now. I wish they had because it would have supported their claim of impact to the school district. I haven't read the letter and I don't need to at this point.
When you rezone light industrial to R3, you also impact NYS income tax revenues. Do personal income taxes equal corporate taxes? Anybody want to hit on that topic?
An environmentalist that thinks about money, odd combination, heh?
This town board clearly has no choice but to give Sync a pass. They did that for Ivonella...they will do it for Larned....so they have but no choice to do the same for these people.....whether we like it or not.....whether it is good for the town or for the schools......whether it is in accordance with the comp plan or not....whether it is in accordance with the zoning or not. And most importantly...whether the 'residents' want it or not.
If they don't give Sync a pass....I can see Sync suing the town in the future. If Galesi is a player in all of this, then the decision will favor the 'highest bidder'....so to say.
As far as code violations....those are repairable. So that mind thought is just pissing in the wind.
My only question is.....what does anyone expect to do with these 'apartments'? They have been there and utilized as 'apartments' aka housing facilities for decades. Did everyone think they were going to just sit there vacant. Or is this really about Galesi wanting the property? And will Larned's or Iovonelli's developments prove any safer or resident friendly?
Personally....This town board has already set a precedence and I don't see them having any choice in this matter. IMHO
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
As I said, the majority booted ST unceremoniously out the door because of his policies I believe. Apparently they want these zone changes, more police hiring, and outsiders brought in from out of the town, along with Sheldon Silver allies, to run things. What is so hard to understand. Teh majority voted for socialized medicine nationally too. So that is what we will get. It is not too hard to understand that there is a consequences to your actions. Start taking responsibility for your vote. In a democratic republic, where people cast a vote and each man or woman is entitled to one vote, then that one vote is an action that causes a reaction. Here is the result of your votes to remove the Republicans plain and clear because you didn't like little things about them. Now you have a dictatorship that is bold as all get-out.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
As I said, the majority booted ST unceremoniously out the door because of his policies I believe. Apparently they want these zone changes, more police hiring, and outsiders brought in from out of the town, along with Sheldon Silver allies, to run things. What is so hard to understand. Teh majority voted for socialized medicine nationally too. So that is what we will get. It is not too hard to understand that there is a consequences to your actions. Start taking responsibility for your vote. In a democratic republic, where people cast a vote and each man or woman is entitled to one vote, then that one vote is an action that causes a reaction. Here is the result of your votes to remove the Republicans plain and clear because you didn't like little things about them. Now you have a dictatorship that is bold as all get-out.
Get off your soap box....you are apparently singing to the wrong choir! I didn't vote for the current administration and apparently neither did thousands of other residents. So the way I see it.....the residents who actually DID support the losing candidates can just go to hell...huh? Remember, the residents that the losing candidates went door to door to while campaigning? Remember, the residents who contributed monetarily? Remember, the residents who went out and voted? How soon they forget, huh?
I didn't vote for obama and clearly neither did millions of other people. But at least the losing candidates, at the national level, are 'solid' on representing those people who did vote for them and contributed and supported them. At least they are still supporting an ideology that some people still hold near and dear. And for that, there will probably be a rep sweep in the congress.
BUT NOT HERE IN NYS!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I didn't vote for any of them either. But you voted for them just as much in a sense because you decided to make sure that the Republicans lost, believing you could vote for a third ticket and get a democratic win. So although you did not pull their lever, it was you who put Clinton in twice as well when you decided that Perot was getting your vote. How does socialism taste? I can live with it since it is the will of the people. I don't go to abuse the current administration since the people put them in. I disagree with them, I watch them, but I won't go there and bash them since they won fair and square.
The will of the people is taking shape. Take responsibility for your vote. You own it.
"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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