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Yeah Yeah Yeah Where did all that money the REPS had for their campaign come from?  Parisi's pocket?  Clubhouse, either crap or get off the pot.  FDG and Bobby G have righted the ship and it has set sail.  You in or out???  OUT!!!!!!!!!!!


Nah,,,,they just 'righted' the wheelchairs and walkers of their gumbas.......did you say crap or get off the pot....first they have to change their depends.....


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Tomassone and company did the same things.  Held up the web posting of agendas, added, removed items from the agenda, sneaky appts., underhanded contract negotiations.  How about the craplot of events after they lost.  Cutting the attorney's budget, cutting the rec programs, cutting the economic development and Lynn Fiorillo's position.  C'mon ya all speak with forked tongues!  The people have spoken so let this new board cut their teeth so they might gnaw thru the sh!t  storm left behind by Tomassone, Mertz and Signore.  I said it before and I say it again either join them for a better Rotterdam or SHUT THE EFF UP!!!
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SHUT THE F UP IS RIGHT PEEPERS AND ANOTHER THING KEEP IT UP : AND YOU WILL ALL FIND HOW IT IS BEHIND THE BARS - MOST OF YOU NEVER SPENT A NIGHT IN JAIL AND I TELL YOU ALL CONSERVS WANT TO PUT YOU THERE AND DOMMY WILL BE YOUR HOST SO KEEP UP THE TROUBLE WITH THE CAMERS AND FILMING AND ALL THE ILLEGAL THINGS ! WHEN YOU GO AGAINST THE BOARD AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE OUTLAWS OVER HERE ALL OF YOU SHUT UP NOW _ THE BOYS IN BLUE ARE NOT READY TO TAKE YOUR TROUBLE MAKEING SPECIALLY NOT TODAY OR THIS WEEK_ IT WAS NOT A GOOD ONE AND YOU CAN BE PRETTY SURE THERE WILL BE SOME OF YOU WHO WILL BE ARRESTED IF YOU WANT TO BREAK LAWS. PEEPERS SAY ITY AGAIN EITHER GET ON BOARD OR SHUT UP THE PEOPLE VOTED AND YOU RIGHTWINGGERS WILL BE BURNING IN HELL FOR TREASON AGAINS THE COUNTRY
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Tomassone and company did the same things.



I thought the dems were going to do it better, cleaner and more transparent than the reps?  Thats the platform they ran on anyway.

Boy, if FDG only knew what he was signing ..
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They're letting Sal blog from "work" again?
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Your problem peeps is that you can't or won't admit when THIS administration is wrong in so many ways. You are constantly bringing up what the tommasone administration did that you disliked to support your own personal/political agenda.

Are you really saying that it was the right move for the APPOINTED attorney stopped the town board from acknowledging and answering questions posed by the taxpayers that elected them into office? Come on peeps, that just placed a huge wedge between the 'people' and the 'politicians'. Adding insult to injury, it was the APPOINTED attorney who made this decision almost at the end of a meeting. And he did it obviously without consulting the 'elected' officials. Even they had the deer in the headlight look when he came out with that one.

And is that the best ya got...to compare tommasone's administration, when we are talking about how this administration has left out major issues regarding the next meetings agendas? It was done TWO meetings in a row?

Are you also saying that what EE did was NOT a crime even though she admitted to it?

Are you suggesting that the people/taxpayers of rotterdam should come to expect and accept the fact that their elected town board supervisor hasn't lead a meeting yet?

Are you suggesting that the people/taxpayers of rotterdam should also come to expect and accept the fact that their elected town board supervisor and board members will not take a stand on the REMs issue that will effect their wallets?

Are you saying that even though these town board members who ran on lower taxes, can get a pass because they have yet to even mention it at one meeting....not one?

You keep saying that this town board WON!! And you suggest that they won by the majority of the electorate. So are you then saying that shutting the majority of the electorate 'out of the process' during privilege of the floor is the boards way of saying 'thank you'?

Are you suggesting that the people of dolan drive are that insignificant that they do not have the right to come to a town board meeting expecting answers to their questions that will effect their quality of life?

Are you suggesting that the people of Eldorado acres are that insignificant that they do not have the right o come to a town board meeting expecting answers to their questions that will effect their quality of life?

Are you also suggesting that the people who live by the triangle are that insignificant that they don't have the right to know about a development  that will effect their way of life? Don't you even think for a minute that once these people read it in the paper, they think that the new town board just may be trying to slip this one by?

Come on peeps.....let's be sensible here!
It's all perception here peeps.  And without communication from this present town board...NOT THE ATTORNEY..  .. perception will rule!


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SHUT THE F UP IS RIGHT PEEPERS AND ANOTHER THING KEEP IT UP : AND YOU WILL ALL FIND HOW IT IS BEHIND THE BARS - MOST OF YOU NEVER SPENT A NIGHT IN JAIL AND I TELL YOU ALL CONSERVS WANT TO PUT YOU THERE AND DOMMY WILL BE YOUR HOST SO KEEP UP THE TROUBLE WITH THE CAMERS AND FILMING AND ALL THE ILLEGAL THINGS ! WHEN YOU GO AGAINST THE BOARD AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE OUTLAWS OVER HERE ALL OF YOU SHUT UP NOW _ THE BOYS IN BLUE ARE NOT READY TO TAKE YOUR TROUBLE MAKEING SPECIALLY NOT TODAY OR THIS WEEK_ IT WAS NOT A GOOD ONE AND YOU CAN BE PRETTY SURE THERE WILL BE SOME OF YOU WHO WILL BE ARRESTED IF YOU WANT TO BREAK LAWS. PEEPERS SAY ITY AGAIN EITHER GET ON BOARD OR SHUT UP THE PEOPLE VOTED AND YOU RIGHTWINGGERS WILL BE BURNING IN HELL FOR TREASON AGAINS THE COUNTRY



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cops at at town meeting for what??  - Salvatore
arrest who for what - speaking in what they believe?


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New agenda is up...
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First..... who's responsibility is it to make sure the information is complete and factual?

Second.... who's responsibility is it to take this information and get it up on the site in a timely manner?

Perhaps this is just a learning curve?


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http://rotterdamny.org/calendar1/calendar/eventimages/Document7pdf.pdf

ROTTERDAM TOWN BOARD
FEBRUARY 24, 2010
AGENDA

6:00 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
MOTION TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION

7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
SUPERVISOR’S REPORT

Presentation from the Schalmont Syracuse University Project Advance (S.U.P.A) Class

PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR FOR PERSONNEL AGENDA ITEMS

PERSONNEL:
Res. No.

98.10 Re-appoint Marjorie Schmid of Rotterdam, New York as a member of the Town of
Rotterdam Conservation Advisory Council for a two (2) year term, commencing
February 24, 2010, term to expire December 31, 2011.

99.10 Amend Resolution Number 72.10 to reflect the appointment of Dan Gaudio to the
vacant position on the Rotterdam Conservation Advisory Council that was held by Dan
Dedrick, term to expire December 31, 2010.

PUBLIC HEARINGS:

A. To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map
of the Town of Rotterdam, for a Change of Zone Request on approximately 15 acres from the
Golub Corporation on multiple parcels located south of Duanesburg Road from Retail Business
(B-1) and Agricultural (A-1) to Light Industrial (I-l).
Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of February 10, 2010.

B. To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map
of the Town of Rotterdam for a Change of Zone request from Aladdin Properties and Marie
Iovinella owners of (2) parcels of property comprising 3.4 acres. The site is located at 330
Becker Drive, Rotterdam, New York 12306 and is known as Tax Parcel No. 57.00-3-24 and No.
57.00-3-25. The applicants are requesting a Change of Zone from Agricultural (A-1) to General
Business (B-2).
Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of February 10, 2010.

PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS

Res. No

100.10 Call for public hearing to be held on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the
John F. Kirvin Government Center, Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 for the following purpose:
To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance, and
Zoning Map of the Town of Rotterdam for a Change of Zone from Sync Realty
Group, Inc., owners of property located at 325 Duanesburg Road, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 known as tax parcel No. 58.-1-3. Applicant is requesting a
change of zone from Light Industrial (I-1) to Multiple Family Residential (R-3).
This matter is hereby referred to the Planning Commission for a recommendation to
be made prior to the March 24th Public Hearing.
This matter is hereby referred to the Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee for a
recommendation to be made prior to the March 24th Public Hearing.

101.10 Declare the Town of Rotterdam as “lead agency” and authorize the Town Planner to
prepare, file, publish and distribute all documents necessary to comply with 6 NYCRR
Part 617 & State Environmental Quality Review relative to the above-referenced
application of Sync Realty Group, Inc.

102.10 Refer to the Planning Commission for report and recommendation thereon a proposed
Local Law of the Year 2010 for the following purpose:
To amend Chapter 270 of the Code of the Town of Rotterdam entitled
ZONING for a Change of Zone application proposed by Timothy Larned
and Maria Esposito on approximately ±71.8 acres from Heavy Industrial
(I-2) and General Business (B-2) to Planned Residential Development
(PRD) and General Business (B-2). The applicants propose the
construction of 248 multi-family garden apartments, approximately
20,000 square feet of commercial space, relocation of existing baseball
fields, and the creation of a permanent recreation/conservation area.

103.10 The Town Board of the Town of Rotterdam endorses and supports participation as
partner in the Schenectady County application for funding of the Schenectady
Countywide Public Works Shared Services Plan to the New York State Department of
State Local Government Efficiency Grant Program.

104.10 A resolution authorizing Change Order No. 1 in the amount of $578.73, Change Order
No. 2 in the amount of $24,625.64, Change Order No. 3 in the amount of $4206.40 for
the Rotterdam Junction Water Tank Improvement Project in the Town of Rotterdam.

CONSENT ITEMS:
Res. No

105.10 Authorize Comptroller to declare certain office equipment obsolete.

106.10 Budget transfers by the Town Comptroller to various accounts.

DISCUSSION ITEMS

COMMITTEE REPORTS

PUBLIC COMMENT PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR
(Per Resolution No. 444.06) General Rules of Procedure for Public Hearings and Privilege
of the Floor:
Each speaker will state his/her name and address for the record. To ensure each attendee has an
equal and reasonable opportunity to address their concerns, he/she is afforded a maximum of four
(4) minutes to address the Town Board.

MISCELLANEOUS

ADJOURNMENT
FRANCIS DELGALLO, Supervisor
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:

A. To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map
of the Town of Rotterdam, for a Change of Zone Request
on approximately 15 acres from the
Golub Corporation on multiple parcels located south of Duanesburg Road from Retail Business
(B-1) and Agricultural (A-1) to Light Industrial (I-l).
Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of February 10, 2010.

B. To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map
of the Town of Rotterdam for a Change of Zone request
from Aladdin Properties and Marie
Iovinella owners of (2) parcels of property comprising 3.4 acres. The site is located at 330
Becker Drive, Rotterdam, New York 12306 and is known as Tax Parcel No. 57.00-3-24 and No.
57.00-3-25. The applicants are requesting a Change of Zone from Agricultural (A-1) to General
Business (B-2).
Public Hearing was called for at the Town Board meeting of February 10, 2010.

PRIVILEGE OF FLOOR FOR AGENDA ITEMS

Res. No

100.10 Call for public hearing to be held on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the
John F. Kirvin Government Center, Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 for the following purpose:
To amend the current Comprehensive Plan as well as the Zoning Ordinance, and
Zoning Map of the Town of Rotterdam
for a Change of Zone from Sync Realty
Group, Inc., owners of property located at 325 Duanesburg Road, Rotterdam,
New York 12306 known as tax parcel No. 58.-1-3. Applicant is requesting a
change of zone from Light Industrial (I-1) to Multiple Family Residential (R-3).
This matter is hereby referred to the Planning Commission for a recommendation to
be made prior to the March 24th Public Hearing.
This matter is hereby referred to the Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee for a
recommendation to be made prior to the March 24th Public Hearing.


I'm all for development, smart development, but here we go again with 'spot zoning'. The exact thing that has gotten rotterdam in the mess it is in. What is the purpose of a comp plan when an administration can amend it at will? Not even 2 months into this administration and the developers appear to be on the front burner and the residents are on the back.

How can this or any administration allow any further development when there is no infrastructure to support it?

And can someone explain how the proposed apartments at the triangle were first...not on the agenda items one day.....was in the gazette the next day as a go....was added to agenda items the next day.....was in the gazette the next day saying it was put on hold??? WTH? I may be reading this wrong since I just came in from snow blowing my driveway and had only one cup of coffee.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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the usual we will fix it when it breaks - maybe

rotterdam the worlds largest sink hole


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The Comp Plan is meant to be a guide.  It's not meant to be written in stone.  Community needs and growth need to be evaluated periodically.  Golub's rezone makes sense and they have done leaps and bounds to accomodate the neighboring homes.  

Why is everyone so focused on the few Dolan Drive residents and not the many residents that will no longer have truck traffic on their road?  Golub will consolidate their warehouse into one location.  That means they won't be running trucks back and forth the length of Dunnsville Road to Voorheesville.  That saves them time, money and exhaust fumes.  I know there goes the environmentalist thinking of the majority and overall community impact supporting granting their expansion. This proposal significantly reduces truck traffic for many Rotterdam residents.

Does anyone think that it will be better if they relocate the warehouse and leave another empty commercial property in Rotterdam?  I know, maybe that can be ballfields, right?

The residents in Coldbrook were severely impacted when Walmart etc. moved in.  It had been vacant for a number of years.  Dumpster noise, traffic, etc.  That's what happens when you live along commerically zoned property.  The Dolan Drive residences border a major Rotterdam taxpaying business.  Golub has been good to the community overall and is trying to be a good neighbor.  The Dolan Drive entrance could be relocated to Dunnsville Road and closed on Duanesburg Road.  The Dolan Drive residents would still have a cul-de-sac and the ingress/egress would be at the apartment complexes not the private homes.  That means less or the same amount of cars traveling through the cul-de-sac.  Understandably it shouldn't be a cut through for Duanesburg Road to Dunnsville Road.  This will alleviate the truck backup and anticipated vision obstruction when exiting Dolan Drive.

Anotherl complaint is looking over how many feet through a major power line at the back of a warehouse by a few residents on Dolan Drive.  Noise impacts is minimized because the warehouse activity will be on the other side of the building.  Those residents should be far more concerned about property values due to that transmission line than looking at the Golub warehouse.  

Sometimes folks on the PC, Zoning BA, RCAC and IDA just have to think of what is good for the economy of the town and overall community character impact.  Thus, sometimes a zone request should be granted.  These various boards make recommendations.  The TB makes the final decision.

I haven't studied the Larned proposal yet so I am reserving comment.
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