that's right there cal. Bush had to deal with and pick up the pieces left behind by Clinton. How many bombings were there during his administration? And what did he do? NOTHING! In fact if memory serves me right, he actually shut down military bases during his stay.
I don't agree with everything bush did, said or acted on. But come on.....Clinton did exactly WHAT to protect this country? Oh that's right....he got free bj's in the oval office. SWEET!

Well at least nobody died from because he dropped his drawers!

The Nobel Committee completely embarrassed itself with this choice. Obama has done nothing even 9 months later to deserve anything but a booby prize. His rushed stimulus package, cap and tax and now his idiotic health care "plan".

  Obama is another Neville Chamberlain-an appeaser-soft on terrorism. Cal is right he is no George Bush. Bush fought back. Bush attacked terror states and rightly defined the axis of evil-N Korea-Iran and Iraq. We all wait with baited breath on what Obama will do with Iran. So far its nothing but more hot air, criticism of American and refusal to stand up for democracy-in this hemisphere and in Iran.

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Well at least nobody died from because he dropped his drawers!

Spoken like a true liberal! 'If it feels good....do it!'

And how many innocent people died in those bombings under clinton's watch? Didja forget about them already?

The true terrorists don't really care what Obama thinks or does to appease them. They have but one goal and that is to kill as many Americans as they can any way they can. If the administration fails to secure our borders and lowers it's guard we will be attacked again and then you'll hear the liberals scream that the government failed to protect them. Obama is in a catch 22, no matter what he does there will be complaints by his own party.

Correct Shadow.  When you say "true terrorists" are about the body count I agree.  This is why the right should stop condemning a whole people, all of the Muslim world, based on a marginal amount of folks who are terrorists--out of the country and in.

Sorry Ben--we need a new health care system that will cover everyone in this country.

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Sorry Ben--we need a new health care system that will cover everyone in this country.

And you're gonna want the govt to do that?  How are they doing with Medicare? Social Security? Medicaid - that's running out of $ in every state?  or how about the USPS?   Comon, national health care isn't the answer. Cut our taxes - enact tort reform - work with prescription drug companies, hospitals to lower their costs (taxes, fees, paperwork, etc) - THAT's reform ... not handing it out on a platter with a public option.

Cal, do you own your own business? Private Sector? If you do, than how on earth can you even say 'public health care'? How about, from a capitalistic business point of view....open up state lines and let the PRIVATE businesses compete? Do you know anything about competition? IT LOWERS PRICES! And MT posted even more solutions!

How 'bout the government giving incentives to businesses to 'do business in this country'? (job creation) What a concept huh?  But no....the liberal spin is to give it to the government to handle. Which by the way is OUR tax dollar. And do you read the Business Review and the Wall St. Journal? If you do, than I can only assume that you read where we can expect to pay 40% of our gross income in increased taxes and old and new fees within the next year.

Medicare sucks...ya still need a supplemental insurance policy. Ya wanna see medicaid at it's best? Visit the glendale home!
And Medicaid....just talk to people who are on it now! It sucks too. And yet you want to pay for another 'restrictive medical care program'. NUTS!
IMHO

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that's right there cal. Bush had to deal with and pick up the pieces left behind by Clinton. How many bombings were there during his administration? And what did he do? NOTHING! In fact if memory serves me right, he actually shut down military bases during his stay.
I don't agree with everything bush did, said or acted on. But come on.....Clinton did exactly WHAT to protect this country? Oh that's right....he got free bj's in the oval office. SWEET!

You have watched too many " Dirty Harry " movies-- shoot-em up bang bang  yippie-kai-yay mother father-
It sounds like the US is in a perpetual bombing contest-
Maybe  take a Karate class and burn off some of that machismo -

Listen/read carefully.........obama is in a no win situation right now. He received the nobel PEACE price, right? So now what does he do about Afghanistan? Send in more troops that his general suggests? (the one that obama himself appointed?) Or does he say no to the general's recommendations so he can live up to his nobel PEACE prize?

We're being jerked around here somebody, by the entire world. Let's see who's side obama will take. OURS or the other countries! He didn't take a strong stand for this country right from the git go. In fact he apologized for it! Nice!  He was all mushy with the other countries, playing nice guy over tea and crumpets. Well now he's in a no win situation....one he brought on himself.....and we will feel the fall out no matter what choice he makes.

I work with a muslim. We are friendly at work and have lunch together frequently. I asked him what the goal of the muslim people were. He said to take over the world and convert all to the muslim religion. I asked him, 'what if I don't want to convert'. He looked right at me and said, 'then you die'. I said, 'oh you wouldn't kill me'.....and he said, 'that is our instructions for Allah. Yes I would.'

Where's Dirty Harry when ya need em?

We like to fight- don't worry we will ALWAYS be dropping bombs someplace

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http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/NATL-Fidel-Castro-Praises-Obamas-Nobel-Win-63921772.html

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Fidel Castro Praises Obama's Nobel Win
Former Cuban leader says award is a "positive measure"
Updated 7:45 AM PDT, Sat, Oct 10, 2009

ASSOCIATED PRESS
Former Cuban Leader Fidel Castro celebrated President Obama's controversial Nobel Peace Prize win early Saturday, saying the commander in chief's honor was a "positive measure" that was intended to criticize past U.S. leaders -- not Obama's achievements in particular.
Castro wrote in a column for Cuban media that he didn't generally agree with the Nobel Committee's decisions but that their choice on Obama was one he could throw his support behind. "I'm obligated to recognize that in this instance it was, in my judgment, a positive measure," he wrote.
The former leader indicted past U.S. administrations for their "genocidal policies," saying Obama should be celebrated for his divergent politics.
"Many will say that he still hasn't earned the right to receive such distinction. We prefer to see in the decision, more than a prize for the president of the United States, a criticism of the genocidal policies that not a few presidents of that country have followed," he wrote.

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We prefer to see in the decision, more than a prize for the president of the United States, a criticism of the genocidal policies that not a few presidents of that country have followed," he wrote

I've talked to Marines that were posted at gitmo shortly after Castro came to power.  They used to witness cubans get shot as they tried to escape cuba crossing the bay. The cuban soldiers would shoot them up with 50 caliber machine guns as attempted to swim across.  

This must be the international support Obama was promising.

Bumble--that is a crock of sh--!  I work with the Muslim community locally. Here in Colonie at the ICCD and at the Troy Area Mosque. I have been to the An Nur School to speak to children and have had the children help with interfaith events. I work with the WHOLE Muslim community.  I have spoken at the Mosque and worked with a Muslim Womens group.  NOBODY I repeat NOBODY has ever said such a stupid statement.  Most Muslims just want to live.  They are not militant and don't want to convert anyone.  I have a friend who is  a Muslim physician and his wife a Catholic. No conversions here for either one of them.  Your friend is jerking your chain because he must think that's what you want to hear.  And if he were such an observant Muslim he wouldn't be having lunch with you because that is improper.  Sorry your story does not add up. Muslims believe in the same G-d you do.  In fact they feel Jesus was a prophet and they revere the Virgin Mary.  Did you know she is the only woman mentioned in the Koran.  Sorry Bumble somebody is giving you a line of BS.

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Most Muslims just want to live.   In fact they feel Jesus was a prophet and they revere the Virgin Mary.  Did you know she is the only woman mentioned in the Koran.  Sorry Bumble somebody is giving you a line of BS.

They REVERE Mary!  If Mary lived in Saudi Arabia under sharia law and had a virgin birth, they would have buried her up to her neck and stoned her to death.  The muslim culture is very tolerant.  Especially when it comes to women's rights.  Oh yeah...And tolerance toward Jews.

Typical liberal B.S.  Giving an example of the exception to the rule, and trying to pass it as the rule.  

Call it what you want cal, but I am NOT the only person who has had this said to them. There is a teacher down on Long Island, that has repeated the same story. Even worse! Really!!!!

And don't give me the Jesus/Mary crap. The muslims also believe that it was Ishmael that Abraham was going to sacrifice and not Isaac. Their God is NOT my God. Perhaps it's yours. And if it is than good for you. You will be an easy convert then.