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October 12, 2009, 7:37pm Report to Moderator
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I think you should go back--you seem to be the one who is missing the point.  


Wow ... all I can say is wow ...

I'm done with you, you're not worth even THINKING about having a logical conversation with.
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October 12, 2009, 7:39pm Report to Moderator
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Of course there were moneychangers in the Temple.  How else would they have been able to purchase what they needed to offer up?  Also at that time Jews didn't have the possibility to engage in this activity in other places.  They were remanded to a set area.
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October 12, 2009, 7:40pm Report to Moderator
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A person not worth it????  Well MT is that your great Catholic education speaking?  Another human not worth it.  You must be a Rep.  Hope you don't speak for all of them.
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Of course there were moneychangers in the Temple.  How else would they have been able to purchase what they needed to offer up?  Also at that time Jews didn't have the possibility to engage in this activity in other places.  They were remanded to a set area.


The offer is not the purchase,,,,is it now?.....this is America,,,,not a damn temple......history, fabric, lessons......
NEVER NEVER NEVER....remove the lesson/history........

what do you think about 9/11 memorial?



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October 12, 2009, 7:50pm Report to Moderator
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Which one do you mean?  Have you seen the one that was sent to the US f rom Russia?  I love that one.
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The offer is not the purchase,,,,is it now?.....this is America,,,,not a damn temple......history, fabric, lessons......
NEVER NEVER NEVER....remove the lesson/history........

what do you think about 9/11 memorial?



Is this a trick question ? Which memorial are you talking about ?


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October 12, 2009, 8:25pm Report to Moderator
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I am not sure which one he speaks of.  If you have not seen the one that came from Russia and is in NJ--google it and look at it.  It is remarkable and captures the collective sadness of the world on that day.  I am not sure if the writer is speaking of the two beams of light that we see each year on 911.  Cehck out the Russian memorial.
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Would the more secular Christian symbol be acceptable in place of the cross?


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Well that's the point not Christian specifically.  What would be a secular Christian symbol?  A fish, Santa Claus what specfically.  How about a dove?  All religious traditions can relate to that?  Or why not a patriotic symbol since it is that type of issue.  You could put a Star of David and Jews and Christians could go with that but would they and then what about the rest who died for this country?
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Well that's the point not Christian specifically.  What would be a secular Christian symbol?  A fish, Santa Claus what specfically.  How about a dove?  All religious traditions can relate to that?  Or why not a patriotic symbol since it is that type of issue.  You could put a Star of David and Jews and Christians could go with that but would they and then what about the rest who died for this country?


The current state of the WTC / memorial  and what is actually being built can be found here http://archrecord.construction.com/news/daily/archives/090908groundzero.asp "The architectural Record" .

N0 Christian symbols-  Nearly all the structures proposed for this site glorify Wall Street and the unique form of perverted American finance that only a corrupted and collaborating government and banking industry permit. This is what the original WTC was about. It was not much more than a spatial appendage to aid Wall Street - and this is exactly what the future of the site brings as well. Only lip service will be paid to those who lost their lives on 9/11/02 and nothing about those who are slowly dying today in great pain of the toxic effects in their valiant rescue attempts to save others. The designs and proposals of today will only bring a return to the past with updated forms-


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Well that's the point not Christian specifically.  What would be a secular Christian symbol?  A fish, Santa Claus what specfically.  How about a dove?  All religious traditions can relate to that?  Or why not a patriotic symbol since it is that type of issue.  You could put a Star of David and Jews and Christians could go with that but would they and then what about the rest who died for this country?



We should start breaking the crosses and stars of david off of the head stones in Arlington National Cemetery and replace them with doves or santa clause.  After all, public property is no place for religious symbolism.  Must have separation of church and state.


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We should start breaking the crosses and stars of david off of the head stones in Arlington National Cemetery and replace them with doves or santa clause.  After all, public property is no place for religious symbolism.  Must have separation of church and state.


Now there is a stupid remark - If I ever heard one - are you practicing to be a wise guy ?


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I hope/think he was being sarcastic or forgot to use the /tic moniker ... I hope!
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This thread questions the legality of a war memorial cross on public property.  All I ask is, should we allow the war memorial at Arlington National Cemetery (federal property) to display crosses or other religious symbols to memorialize fallen soldiers.  I think it's a fair question.  I thought my sarcastic tone did't require a tic moniker.  I thought wrong.


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I agree with Cicero. This is the next crazy step that the left wants to take. They will be replacing all the markers in Arlington and puting a pentagram at the top of the monuments instead of crosses and Stars of David. I give them about 15 years to complete this, maybe sooner. After the Greatest Generation is gone, there will not be enough moral certitude to stand up to that in this matter.


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