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High Court Takes Up Case of Cross on Public Land
The cross, located on a rocky outcrop in the Mojave Desert, has been covered in plywood for the past several years following federal court rulings that it violates the First Amendment


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Wednesday, October 07, 2009


File: The cross, covered in a tarp, is seen at the Mojave National Preserve in southern California. (AP / Las Vegas Review Journal)

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court is taking up a long-running legal fight over a cross honoring World War I soldiers that has stood for 75 years on public land in a remote part of California.

The cross, on an outcrop known as Sunrise Rock in the Mojave National Preserve, has been covered in plywood for the past several years following federal court rulings that it violates the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment prohibition against government endorsement of religion.

The justices were to hear arguments Wednesday in a case the court could use to make an important statement about its view of the separation of church and state. The Obama administration is defending the presence of the cross, which court papers describe as being 5 to 8 feet tall.

A former National Park Service employee, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, sued to have the cross removed or covered after the agency refused to allow erection of a Buddhist memorial nearby. Frank Buono describes himself as a practicing Catholic who has no objection to religious symbols, but he took issue with the government's decision to allow the display of only the Christian symbol.

Easter Sunrise services have been held at the site for decades..................>>>>...............>>>>.................................http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/07/high-court-takes-case-cross-public-land/
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move it to Schenectady---call it Stonehenge and charge fees and make 100 county jobs around it........we can have a winter solstice
dance around it---oh, that would be the ChristmasHoliday parade----there,,,now balance the Schenectady budget


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Should This Cross Be Taken Down?


No.
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What is so different today than it was 75 years ago, that the cross must be removed?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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What is so different today than it was 75 years ago, that the cross must be removed?

I "googled" 75 years ago.. apparently we had no internet 75 years ago..

I sometimes think people fight stuff BT cause they have nothing better to do.  Why don't these same people who get up in arms over a cross in the desert spend the time.. i don't know.. maybe trying to better themselves by reading a self help book, or planting a tree.

Who wakes up and says "Today, to better my environment, i am going to cover up a random cross in the desert"?



I don't spell check!  Sorry...
If you include "No offense" in a statement, chances are, your statement is offensive.
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Take it down.  If you are going to commemorate the loss of Americans during the War commemorate every American loss of life --that would include other faith traditions.  Put something patriotic there instead.
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Take it down.  If you are going to commemorate the loss of Americans during the War commemorate every American loss of life --that would include other faith traditions.  Put something patriotic there instead.



Just like the Soviet Union.  Only approved symbols of the state may be displayed on public property.  Elementary aged kids singing praise to our dear leader in a public school is ok, but a cross in the middle of the desert is not.  

Where has my country gone?


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Oh Cicero stuff a sock in it.  I said put something up PATRIOTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!  I didn't say ignore it.  Why can't you guys ever make room for anybody else at the table.
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Take it down.  If you are going to commemorate the loss of Americans during the War commemorate every American loss of life --that would include other faith traditions.  Put something patriotic there instead.


CSJ advocates taking down of crosses?  Wow.
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October 12, 2009, 2:35pm Report to Moderator
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TIME TO TAKE IT DOWN PEOPLE THIS IS OFFENDIN THE ONES WHO DONT BELONG TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THAT -  DO IT NOW ! ! !
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Believe it or not MT not everybody is Christian--ask the CSJ's who would be laughing their a--es off that you would suggest otherwise.
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Believe it or not MT not everybody is Christian--ask the CSJ's who would be laughing their a--es off that you would suggest otherwise.


Nice language ...  no wonder the order is dying faster than the residents
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That's why I'm an associate and not a nun.  
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thank you for the service to our nation cel and for having the christian soul to stick up against these god - less repubs and right winggers
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That's why I'm an associate and not a nun.  


Not doing a great job there hun ...

The CSJ Associates are men and women who embrace the charism of unity and reconciliation and participate in the mission of the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet. The CSJ Associate community lives out this call of the Spirit in their daily lives.
    
• Manifest FIDELITY to Jesus Christ through prayer, faith, and service;

• Endeavor to embody CHRIST’S RECONCILING PRESENCE in the world;

• Unite in PRAYER individually and communally with the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet;

• Deepen ATTITUDES of wonder, reverence, gratitude, openness to change, growth and loving commitment.


Maybe it's time to reconsider your discernment / calling.  
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