Quoted from bumblethru

First, we all agree with Mr.Suhrada. Anyone with a half a brain would.

Of course- most of you are sharing a single brain cell -

Quoted from Sombody

Of course- most of you are sharing a single brain cell -

first of all, I dont share my body parts well,,,,
second, I cant share a single brain cell, it's against the Organ Donars Rights.....
third, I need to keep what I have before they all disappear.....

I Really want to know- what would make a person so hate his own culture, history, language and national financial security that he/she could endorse the flood of millions of criminals who invade our land without going through any procedure, Americanization, health check, or test to determine whether they are a benefit or detriment to the fabric of society? Could it be latent racism that makes a limosine liberal want a cheap gardener, nanny or dishwasher to exploit so their kids get to go to Harvard? What makes you want to create a stratified society where those who speak Spanish dialect have to be busboys and ditchdiggers and your own kids go to prep school?

I for one wouldn't want anyone like that working for me since peonage is immoral and was ended after slavery. I would prefer to pay a fair wage and have productive workers and Americans. Anyone who wants criminal aliens here strictly wants to see a lower class of workers to lower wages and break down the middle class, and elevate your own interests. THAT IS YOUR MOTIVE. You have no other, whether you are a deceitful and communistic priest or a medical doctor with a BMW. You want to DIVIDE the country, and destroy American unity and exceptionalism.

Examine your own conscious liberals and corporate executives (liberals as well.)

I think if you made an effort to do even some basic research, you would find that most illegal aliens are not nannies, etc, for liberals. [geez what a narrow-minded view]. you will find that most work for huge companies. in other words, they work for limo-driving capitalists, no doubt most of them arch conservatives, who find it cheaper to emply an illegal than pay an american., so i guess these corporate leaders must really hate our country.

Cprp execs are rich liberals who support the Democrats. Check your facts. Also, those MS 13 guys worked for a restaurant in Malta, hardly a millionaire operation. Do your research. Capitalists who make a lot of money running big corporations often support the statists because it drives all the small guys out. A lot of the criminal aliens you want to keep here are just here to commit crimes too, or is reality to hard to handle while "smoking bananas?"

Your liberal motives stink and it is time someone called you on all of it. Conservative Americans are sick of being called National SOCIALISTS (NAZI) and we are sick of you questioning our morality. It is coming back at ya and it is not gonna be pretty, liberal.

Give me a break, how many illegals do we have in prison that we have to pay for for how many years? How many are involved with gangs that rape, rob, and kill? Not all illegals are bad but if they want to stay here and enjoy all the benefits that this country has to offer they should become citizens, get a job, and pay taxes just like the rest of us do. If they decide not to do that then they should be deported back to where they came from.

please look up illegal aliens and work -- you will answer your questions there. your dogma is bizarre and, like most of what you say, based on fantasy.

btw. arch conservatives are nazi -- in the old days they supported hitler -- father conglin=== look him up

No, NAZIs were haters of liberty. Conservatives love liberty and the constitution but you leftists have reversed the truth as you always do in order to gain more power and control over others.

Atlas Shrugged----AGAIN.....

'liberals' (corporate limo owners) are made to feel that they must 'give' their work away, or atleast make it look as if they do, so the
rest of the American peons(ford/chevy fleet drivers) dont feel so 'put upon'......and who are the controlers of this system?

.....Reps and Dems......they all eat together.....

OK....can we, just for a minute, not use the words conservative and liberal? Can we stop with the 'them against us' and 'us against them' rhetoric......even NAZI.....just for this minute?

We are ALL American's first and foremost. We live in a country that was built and upheld by laws. As Americans we should all be appalled at the fact that the law of immigration is being broken and nothing is being done to correct it. Plain and simple. And there is more than enough blame to go around. From the illegals themselves to the corporations or businesses that CHOOSE to hire them to increase their bottom line.

This issue of illegal immigration has been tossed around the government table for the last few years with no reasonable solution. And it clearly didn't matter what political party was in control. The outcome is always the same.

We can b**ch all we want, but unless our government upholds laws that are already in place.....why waste our breath? My guess is that the illegals are here to stay. The ones that need be will be absorbed into our welfare system and the rest....who knows?

It just surprises me that there are laws on the books that are not being adhered to. EVERY LEGAL AMERICAN SHOULD BE APPALLED!  imho

Policy BriefLegislative UpdatePerspectivePolicy ReportsBad Bill of the WeekIllegal Immigration: Drugs, Gangs and Crime
Dr. Jameson Taylor  

“Not all illegal aliens are crossing into the United States to find work. Law enforcement officials indicate that there are individuals coming across the border who are forced to leave their home countries because of criminal activities. These dangerous criminals are fleeing the law in other countries and seeking refuge in the United States.”

Majority Staff Report of the House Committee on Homeland Security


Illegal Immigrants: Drugs, Gangs and Crime

Paramilitary groups trading fire with U.S. agents. Kidnappings and murders of U.S. citizens. Members of al-Qaida, Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations infiltrating the border on a routine basis. We are not talking about Iraq – but Texas. One of the clearest indicators the United States has lost control of its southwest border is the ease with which thousands of tons of drugs and millions of illegal aliens are crossing the U.S. border on an annual basis. This open borders policy has opened the door to more than just cheap labor. The presence of millions of undocumented persons in our country has provided a perfect cover for various forms of criminal activity, ranging from drug trafficking to prostitution to identity theft.


Drugs

Federal investigators believe that as much as 2.2 million kilograms of cocaine and 11.6 kilograms of marijuana were smuggled into the United States via the Mexican border in 2005.1 With the decline of the Medellin and Cali cartels of Columbia, two Mexican drug cartels – the Sinaloa cartel and the Gulf cartel – are battling over the billion-dollar drug trade between Mexico and the United States. These cartels also have ties to U.S. gangs that serve as distribution networks in the interior United States. A 2006 study by the House Committee on Homeland Security warns that the Mexican cartels have essentially wrested control of the border from both the U.S. and Mexican governments:

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration reports that the Mexican drug syndicates operating today along our Nation’s Southwest border are far more sophisticated and dangerous than any of the other organized criminal groups in America’s law enforcement history. Indeed, these powerful drug cartels, and the human smuggling networks and gangs they leverage, have immense control over the routes into the United States and continue to pose formidable challenges to our efforts to secure the Southwest border. … The cartels operate along the border with military grade weapons, technology and intelligence and their own respective paramilitary enforcers. ... This new breed of cartel is not only more violent, powerful and well financed, it is also deeply engaged in intelligence collection on both sides of the border.2


Here in North Carolina, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) reports “a significant increase in drug-trafficking activity.” Explains the DEA: “The majority of the increased drug-trafficking activity is due to an unprecedented influx of foreign nationals into the state” – in particular “Spanish-speaking, specifically Mexican, nationals.” A 2003 report by the National Drug Intelligence Center corroborates the DEA’s findings:

Mexican criminal groups in southwestern states and Mexican drug trafficking organizations (DTOs) in Mexico routinely use Mexican illegal immigrants in North Carolina as couriers to transport cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and, to a lesser extent, heroin into and through the state. These criminal groups exploit a growing Mexican population in North Carolina to facilitate their illicit activities. Law enforcement authorities in North Carolina, principally in the western and southern areas of the state, indicate that Mexican criminal groups are also increasing their involvement in retail drug distribution.3


Needless to say, the majority of illegal immigrants are not directly involved in the drug trade. Nevertheless, the DEA has determined that “their presence allows Mexican traffickers to effectively conceal their activities within immigrant communities.”4 Johnston County Sheriff Steve Bizzell (R) estimates that 80 percent to 85 percent of the drug trade in his county is conducted by Hispanics.5 In 2002, the Wake County Sheriff’s Office similarly reported that although Hispanics comprised only 5.4 percent of the population, they accounted for 46 percent of drug-trafficking arrests.6



Gangs

As indicated above, transnational gangs, such as Surenos-13 and Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), are responsible for much of the low-level drug trade in North Carolina. Over the past several years, North Carolina has experienced a disturbing surge in gang activity. Between 1999 and 2004, Wake County saw a 5,743.3 percent increase in gang membership. During the same period, the city of Durham saw a 333.3 percent increase.7 A 2005 report by the Governor’s Crime Commission estimated that 22.2 percent of all gang members in North Carolina are Hispanic (with ethnicity unknown for another 19.4 percent).8 By contrast, Hispanics accounted for only 7 percent of total state population in 2004.

Nationally, Hispanics are thought to comprise 49 percent of total gang membership. A majority of these gang members are illegal immigrants. Notes Duplin County Sheriff Blake Wallace (D), “There is an increasing gang activity problem, particularly with MS-13 and studies have shown that the majority of those gang members are illegal aliens.”9 Among these studies is a report published by the Governor’s Crime Commission which posits that 66 percent of Hispanic/Latino gang members are illegal aliens.10 In the case of MS-13, one of the most violent and powerful gangs in North Carolina, federal authorities estimate that “approximately 90 percent of U.S. MS-13 members are foreign-born illegal aliens and depend upon the Texas-Mexico border smuggling corridor to support their criminal operations.”11 As Forsyth County District Attorney Tom Keith (R) puts it, “You cannot say ‘drugs’ without saying ‘gangs’ without saying ‘illegal aliens.’”12

In addition to the drug trade, the Mexican cartels are becoming increasingly involved in human trafficking (i.e., prostitution) and human smuggling. According to Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute, “Mexico is the number one source for young female sex slaves in North America.” Each year thousands of women and children – with 12-year-olds in top demand – are smuggled across the border and sent to brothels across the United States. Such brothels, notes Schurman-Kauflin, “can take the form of homes, apartments, spas, massage parlors, and hotels … even middle class neighborhoods can be at risk.”13



Human Smuggling

As for human smuggling, the U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security reports that the typical illegal alien pays between $1,200 and $2,500 to be taken across the border. Not infrequently, illegals pay back these fees by selling drugs once they get to America.14 The drug cartels are also smuggling non-Mexican (OTMs) aliens into the United States, often charging between $45,000 and $60,000 per person to do so.15 Since 2001, border apprehensions of “special interest aliens” are up 41 percent. Indeed, FBI Director Robert Mueller has alerted Congress that “there are individuals from countries with known al Qa’ida connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic immigrants.”16



Identify Theft

Once illegals get across the border, many have jobs, as well as fraudulent documents, waiting for them. In 2001, for instance, Tyson Foods Inc. was indicted for conspiring to smuggle illegal aliens into the United States to work at the company’s chicken processing plants.17 Federal agents caught one Tyson plant manager in Monroe requesting as many as 500 illegal workers, complete with photo IDs and Social Security cards. Immigration authorities have also discovered that criminal groups, such as the Castorena Family Organization (CFO), control cells of counterfeiters in major American cities. These organizations provide illegal aliens with high-quality counterfeit documents, such as Social Security cards, birth certificates, marriage certificates, driver’s licenses, proof of vehicle insurance cards, even counterfeit utility bills.18

Many illegal aliens are also resorting to identify theft. During a recent raid at Smithfield Foods in the Bladen County town of Tar Heel, investigators found that 86 percent of workers arrested for immigration violations had also stolen identities from American citizens. Warns U.S. Attorney General George Holding, “It’s an epidemic problem.”19



Drunk Driving and Other Crimes

In addition to drug trafficking and identity theft, illegal aliens also have higher rates of drunk driving and may have higher rates of sexual deviancy. According to the radical Hispanic advocacy group, El Pueblo, “Alcohol-related motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for Hispanics in North Carolina; more than 20 percent compared to only 2.2 percent for Whites and 2.4 for African Americans.”20 A 2006 report by the UNC Highway Safety Research Center likewise concluded that Hispanic drivers involved in crashes are two-and-a-half times more likely to be intoxicated than are whites; and three times more likely than blacks.21 Finally, a study by Dr. Schurman-Kauflin concluded that “there are approximately 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States.”22 Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) also runs a special program, “Operation Predator,” which targets foreign nationals who commit sex crimes against children. To date, more than 10,000 individuals have been arrested through this ICE initiative, resulting in more than 5,500 deportations.23



Recent Legislation

Between 2000 and 2006, the number of aliens (legal status unknown) entering North Carolina’s prison system increased by 210 percent (and this figure doesn’t include the 2,676 inmates processed for deportation under Mecklenburg County’s 287(g) program). During the same period, the number of aliens on parole increased by 370 percent. Similarly, Sheriff Jim Pendergraph (D) observed that between 2003 and 2007, the number of illegal aliens in his Mecklenburg County prison system went from 2 percent to 20 percent, a tenfold increase.

In an attempt to deal with the rising number of illegal aliens engaged in criminal activities, the 2007 General Assembly authorized a one-time appropriation of $750,000 to help the North Carolina Sheriffs’ Association provide “technical assistance and training associated with immigration enforcement” to local law enforcement. Essentially, this money is to be used to help county sheriffs implement the federal 287(g) program, which trains local law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration laws. It is unclear, though, whether these limited funds will be enough to tempt sheriffs to take on a program that has, not only long-term benefits, but also long-term costs.

Similarly, the General Assembly agreed at the final hour to pass a law (S.L. 2007-494) that requires jail personnel to verify the immigration status of persons convicted of a felony or a DWI. The state is to annually report the results of this verification process – not to the Department of Homeland Security – but to the Governor’s Crime Commission. According to the legislation, the mere fact that the state makes an inquiry through U.S. Customs regarding a prisoner’s legal status provides sufficient notice to federal authorities. While similar measures in Georgia and Colorado require jail personnel to formally alert federal immigration authorities, North Carolina has adopted a much more passive approach to reporting illegal immigrant felons. But given the magnitude of the problem and the limited resources of ICE, it is unlikely that this new law will do much to reduce criminal activity by illegal aliens. Moreover, even once they are deported, many repeat offenders return. In Mecklenburg County, for instance, at least one-third – but probably more – of illegals return after being arrested and deported.24 This is not to say that the public safety of our state does not require the aggressive deportation of criminal illegal aliens. But deportation alone is not going to be enough. As a country we need to take steps to prevent such criminals from entering the United States in the first place. Comprehensive immigration reform must begin by securing the border.

Illegal Immigrant Gangs Commit Most U.S. Crime
ViewDiscussion.Last Updated: Fri, 01/30/2009 - 4:23pm
Criminal street gangs—mostly comprised of illegal immigrants—are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the United States and are the primary distributors of most illicit drugs.

The alarming, but not surprising, information is revealed in a new report published by the Justice Department’s National Gang Intelligence Center (NGIC), an FBI task force created in 2005 to curb the growing threat of violent gangs in the U.S. The NGIC teams up with state and local law enforcement agencies throughout the nation to enforce, study and intercept gangs and has published several reports documenting their activities.

The agency’s latest publication has not been made public but a national newspaper revealed some of its findings this week. It says that up to 80% of crime in the U.S. is committed by gangs and that gang membership in this country has grown to 1 million, an increase of 200,000 in the last few years.

Additionally, gangs are the "primary retail-level distributors of most illicit drugs" in the U.S. and several are sophisticated enough to compete with major Mexican drug-trafficking cartels. Most of the country’s state and local enforcement agencies have reported gang activity in their jurisdiction and the problem will only get worse, according to the FBI.

In fact, a high-ranking FBI director said gangs have followed the migration paths of illegal alien laborers to avoid big-city police departments that have cracked down on their activities. An example is the notoriously violent Salvadoran gang known as Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13, which has spread throughout the U.S.—to at least 42 states—and continues expanding.

In 2008 alone MS-13 members, all illegal immigrants with previous criminal records, committed atrocious crimes that received ample media coverage. In San Francisco an MS-13 gang banger murdered a father and son with an assault weapon because their car blocked his from making a turn. In Los Angeles an MS-13 member just released from prison murdered a high school football star as the teen jock walked home from the mall. In Maryland a 14-year-old honors high school student was shot to death on a crowded public bus by a Salvadoran illegal alien who proudly revealed he belonged to the MS-13.

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And dont forget----just because something is 'legal' doesn't make it right either.....and just because something isn't 'illegal' doesn't
make it right either.....

NV-Bunny Ranch
NYS-Lotto
bars
strip clubs
insider trading
over use of credit cards
etc etc etc......

...and just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong......alot of legislation is made to 'make criminals'.....like
precognition.....

precognition should be our own moral boundaries.....the legislation should be the jail/needle/electricity for the tresspass of those

.....the question is,,,,what is our moral boundary? or shall we say foundation.....

No one said to electrocute them or give them a "needle."