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CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or
Independent

From a California school teacher - - -  

"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
large southern  California high school which is designated a Title 1 school,
meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens
Huntington Park , etc.., where these students are protesting,  
are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I
say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a
full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a
Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and  
trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.  
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones.  
The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience
of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids.
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for
anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America .
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers
whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the
country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female
teachers, calling them "Putas" (whores< /SPAN>) and throwing things, that
the teachers were in tears.Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc.  
Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to
demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in  
the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more
crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new
diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
Americans, We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a
disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in  
their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world
culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting
pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate,
and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "
political correctness" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.


CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.  
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth,  
a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no
income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return,
he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.  
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills..
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI.  
Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.   All of this is at
(our) taxpayer's expense .
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying
their bills and his.  
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.  
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS
THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or
Independent

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no
income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return,
he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.  
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills..
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI.  
Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.   All of this is at
(our) taxpayer's expense .
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying
their bills and his.  
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.  
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS
THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'


What people might want to do is take their little brains and check  out this  FAKE piece of propaganda-
notice there are NO sources cited, no identification of the specific school or teacher. in fact, in two minutes i found out this nonsense has been circulating for months, with no substantiation.

Among the other 'inaccuracies' on this are the following:

Working illegal aliens do NOT get an earned income tax credit.

in order to file a tax return the alien must have an SSN which by definition they do not. Instead, any illegal alien who does file uses an ITIN. They do not qualify for section 8 housing. They do not qualify for SSI if they are blind or disabled. They do not get food stamps. They do not get medicaid or medicare. Kids of illegal aliens may qualify for medicaid if they were born in the US (depending on family income and other criteria


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