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Vetted like STAN "THE" MAN? lol-we need someone to second the motion to adjourn. And act as a paper weight?

  C'mon Cicero-what should Fran do offer to pay more taxes? Not his fault reassessments were not done on a regular basis. I'm sure y'all ran down to pay more than your record taxes.

  Now we have a teacher who's a business leader? This is funnier by the minute. If you needed an IQ test to serve 90% of these idiots would never pass-from both parties. The polls are looking worse and worse for the dead enders so we get all these non issues. Stop insulting the intellect of the voters-they have had enough of Steve and his horrid appointees.The fat lady is approaching the microphone.
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The residents of Rotterdam should appreciate that rep chair Parisi took to task the competency and literacy of the dem candidate for Rotterdam Town Supervisor fdg.   We can at least trust they are equip with a high school diploma to bring into office with them if elected. Right?


Have you ever spoke to some of their candidates? LOL. They make their livings on the public TIT! S.T./J.S./J.M./S.M. give us a break... God for bid a candiadate not be a drain on the taxpayer and actually have their own business to help pay for the professional politicians that bleed us dry year after year...
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PG 13 you are correct!  Like the Ego and Ignore Signore could be part of the brain trust.
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Another jackass statement. Do you think any of your tax dollars paid for him to do anything. I'm sure he's paid more taxes in a year then you have in a lifetime. Who has been paying for who. Is this the type of stupid stuff people come up with when they are losing and so very scared.


Missing the point again.  I know it's hard for the old Rotterdam guard to understand how this works but here it goes.  

If you build a house in say 1985, and it's assessed for $500K.  Over the next 20 years, you decide to make renovations, and additions, and maybe a garage or two.  Most residents would go to the town, get a building permit, when the building is complete, the assessor would reassess the property and the value would go up and your total tax bill would go up.  Though you are correct stating that he pays more than most in Rotterdam, even at the $500K assessment, since he's probably in the top 1% in property value. Where you are wrong is, justifying the half a million dollars worth of new structures and added value on the property not on the tax roll over the past 15 to 20 years.

This guy's running for Town Supervisor.  I think it is fair to ask if he believes he should have been paying taxes on the structures that were never listed on his assessment.


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Missing the point again.  I know it's hard for the old Rotterdam guard to understand how this works but here it goes.  

If you build a house in say 1985, and it's assessed for $500K.  Over the next 20 years, you decide to make renovations, and additions, and maybe a garage or two.  Most residents would go to the town, get a building permit, when the building is complete, the assessor would reassess the property and the value would go up and your total tax bill would go up.  Though you are correct stating that he pays more than most in Rotterdam, even at the $500K assessment, since he's probably in the top 1% in property value. Where you are wrong is, justifying the half a million dollars worth of new structures and added value on the property not on the tax roll over the past 15 to 20 years.

This guy's running for Town Supervisor.  I think it is fair to ask if he believes he should have been paying taxes on the structures that were never listed on his assessment.


I am not missing your point, I just don't agree with it. My stance is I'll always agrue for the guy that pays more than $100,000 in different taxes every year than the guy that works for the taxpayer and pays $5,000 a year on his house. I respectfully disagree that he hasn't paid his fair share over the years, I would argue the opposite. This is a man who knows full well how small business people are getting taxed to death and their livelihoods are getting taken away. This is a man who works everyday with the blue collar folk who understands the economic pressures they face everyday. This is a man who I believe is genuine and honest. Maybe he didn't list a covered porch on his property while he paid over a $100,000 in taxes every year. I really don't care. I want someone with business sense, who isn't on the public tit, who will be honest and will listen to the residents. The other mud you all are slinging doesn't matter to me and it doesn't matter to a majority of the residents. All one has to do is read the poll results to see for themselves.

Are you one of the people afraid their nipple is going to be taken away from them? I love the comments about the DEMs knowing he is a conservative. Are you kidding me? Maybe the Repubs should look in the mirror and endorse more conservative minded candidates.
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  C'mon Cicero-what should Fran do offer to pay more taxes? Not his fault reassessments were not done on a regular basis. I'm sure y'all ran down to pay more than your record taxes.


So the town has to actually discover you built new structures and additions. Gee, I thought it was the responsibility of the property owner to file for a building permit which would trigger an assessment.  

See what you don't understand about Rotterdam, it was he and the other businesses on the Burdeck Street corridor that benefited from not getting their properties reassessed.  There were previous town boards that reassessed some properties, but other certain properties were never reassessed.  It didn't happen by chance.  It was NO ACCIDENT.  He and the rest of the business community fell out of favor when the Republicans took office.  And to the credit of this administration, they made them play by the same rules.  Hence the Rotterdam Cops and the Burdeck corridor businesses are making an all out assault on the town. They want their favored status back so they can continue to fleece the town like the days of old.

Even if it was not his fault.  Which it is.  It's a fair question to ask.  Did he know that his property was worth more that his tax bill was showing him assessed at?  He's a contractor and property owner, I'm sure he understands the value of property.


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  C'mon Cicero-what should Fran do offer to pay more taxes? Not his fault reassessments were not done on a regular basis. I'm sure y'all ran down to pay more than your record taxes.


I would be fine if that was his answer.  If his answer is that he was unaware that his property needed reassessing after building these 14 new structures.  Let's get him on record explaining it.  You're confusing the amount payed with the assessed amount. I would love to pay taxes on 50% of the market value of my house.  I would gladly add a 1000 square foot addition if I knew I wasn't going to get taxed on it.  That's a no brainer.  No pun intended.(well maybe a little)

Was Fran aware that his property was behind in assessment?  As Town Supervisor, will he work with the assessor to make sure assessments are current and accurate town wide?


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Cicero....you will never get a straight answer. These sheople actually think that IF they get elected, they can change people's newly reassessed taxes. I would like to know how the hell they are going to accomplish that? Spot assess? Nope..can't.

How bout the properties that a have NEVER been on the tax roll until now? (that was from the old assessor) Gonna take them back off? Nope..can't.

Gonna take fdg's assessment back to pre-2007? He, like everyone else has got to go to court for that one.

So what's the plan? How is fdg gonna take care of everyone's assessment? With a wink and a nod, like in the old rotterdam days?


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I am sure he will be happy to with the assessor re: properties through the town.  We can all work with the assessor because it won't be that thug Surprise who is in so deep with ST and an affront to all Rotterdam citizens.  All part of the reason why ST can't run his record--
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  We can all work with the assessor because it won't be that thug Surprise who is in so deep with ST and an affront to all Rotterdam citizens.


Who will be the assessor be under FDG?  What can a new assessor do that this assessor isn't? Is FDG's property not worth $1.4 million? If FDG is angry about his assessment, I wanna know why.  Is he angry that he underpaid for 20 years?  FDG needs to answer some important questions.  If you are going to run for Supervisor, the residents need to know his intentions.  As Town Supervisor, does Mr DelGallo believe that a Rotterdam resident should be able to have 14 structures go unreported on his watch?  This isn't mud ladies and gentlemen.  These are questions about the mans character that need to be addressed.


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Who will be the assessor be under FDG?  What can a new assessor do that this assessor isn't?

By law...NOTHING!!! People have to grieve their taxes in court if they still disagree. THAT IS THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN.

The only thing a different assessor could do is give a wink, a nod and a blind eye to future expansions. Ya know....like in the 'good old days'?

READ THE LAW PEOPLE!!



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http://spotlightnews.com/spotlightnews/article.php?article_id=tZ1247686085t4a5e2dc5a52d0

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Del Gallo, a Rotterdam resident for 35 years, has never held political office before.  

“The bottom line is if they voters are happy with what they’ve got and who they have in office now, then there’s no reason for them to vote for me, but if they’re not happy and they want a change and they feel like I’m capable of changing the town, which I know I am, then they will vote for me and that’s that,” said Del Gallo.

He said that if he is elected, one of the first things he wants to do is figure out why taxes are so high in the town and how they can become more affordable.

“I went to protest tax rates at a hearing. There were people who could hardly walk. There were people who are older than I am and not as healthy, and they were over there protesting their taxes,” said Del Gallo.

“What are you doing to these people? They collect a Social Security and a pension that’s 30 years old that doesn’t amount to anything,” said Del Gallo.

He said that he doesn’t want to see people leaving the Town of Rotterdam because their tax rates are too high.


If FDG wants to find out why the tax rates are so high, he should look into finding out who and how people increased their property values over the years without the town or school district collecting tax on them.  He should find out how much revenue was lost to property owners over the past 20 years due to uncollected taxes on structures that were never reported to the town.  He should look at the Town Budget, and look at what percentage goes to the RPD.  Ya see FDG, as I learned in High School, there is no such thing as a free lunch.  There was a certain group of Rotterdam residents that let other Rotterdam residents pay for their lunch.  We have reached the tipping point, and now those chickens have come home to roost and they still think they shouldn't have to pay.  Now when it's their time to pay their share to the town which made them millionaires, they look to take over the halls of town government for their own personal benefits.  

Vote McGarry and the NNTP come November 3rd if you want real change in Town and County government.


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Gee Cicero you must be a late bloomer.  I learned there was not thing as a free lunch in grammar school.  Then I learned coping strategies.  Guess you didn't.  I dare say, successful businesses located in Rotterdam make it because they are competitve leaders in business and many folks from OUTSIDE the town WITH those in Town make all of that happen.  And although Rotterdam is no longer a nice place to live, FDG will restore some dignity to Town Hall.  Up until now the only dignity found there is in the Town Clerk's office as well as Dawn Pasquariella.
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Yes, late bloomer I may be.  The education system has been failing us.  I'm glad to lean that the "no free lunch" used to be taught in grammar school many years ago.  That means there is a chance that FDG may have been taught this before exiting the public education system.  And if he didn't learn it, he can claim ignorance to cheating the town and school district out of a lot of tax revenue that the rest of the residents had to pay for.

You say businesses in Rotterdam make it because they are competitive leaders.  I say that is partially true.  But you also have to look at the advantage of living in a million dollar home and only paying on half of that market value.  That gives Rotterdam businesses quite a competitive leg up when your competitors have to pay for property that is accurately assessed.  Paying taxes on a million dollar property based on a 500K assessment virtually cuts his tax rate in half.  He's a successful business man, I'm sure he could figure the financial advantage of that.  FDG was able to pocket an awful lot of money do to this assessment "oversight".

As a resident of Rotterdam, I would like to know if FDG was aware that he was under assessed for the past 15-20 years.  Does FDG believe it was HIS responsibility to correct his under assessment and report the 14 new structures on his property, or is it the assessors job  to randomly discover it?  I believe these are fair questions.


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Well I can tell ya one thing....if fdg gets elected, the first thing I'm gonna do is change my political affiliation from blank to dem. THEN, I'm gonna build that addition on my house we have always wanted to do. I've talked to a few business owners and they are going to do the same.


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