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Judy Patrick
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Judy started at The Gazette in 1982 as a reporter in the Amsterdam bureau and has, over the years, worked in the Saratoga Springs, Ballston Spa and Mechanicville bureaus. Eventually, she moved to the Schenectady office, where she has at various times worked as an day city editor, assistant city editor, an arts reporter and editor and a reporter assigned to the Sunday paper. She grew up in Washington County, where she still lives, and graduated from the University at Albany in 1978 with a degree in English literature.

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With deadlines approaching, reporters then either phone in their stories or return to the newsroom, where they write their stories with amazing speed.

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lol -- yes, I am sure the gazette took action out of fear of the powerful bloggers here . yes, I am sure they are trying to stifle your voice, which is so loud and speaks so well. ---- u and your [hmm, what is a number less than a dozen] followers so sway public debate. why, just the other day, someones stopped me in the store and said, do u read what that guy on the blog said? It made me change my vote for mccain. lol.

u folks are truly full of yourselves. u would cut off your nose despite your face --- hurt the local guy cause u think it sways from your own myopic pov.

i would venture that, since u don't read the gazette, you have no clue what you are talking about. how can u say something does this or that if you ignore it? what kind of logic is that?

u will find that the TU covers less of the county than you think -- how many rotterdam board stories have they written in the last two months --- hmmm, none

when was the last story about glenville or scotia? how about never

so, please read the TU, you will further increase your ignorance,,,, but perhaps, that is your goal all along? lol

have a great day ===== I'm gonna read the local newspapers.

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Copyright and Community Message Boards: To be honest, I’m surprised it took them so long.  This week, our local newspaper, the Schenectady Gazette, sent demands to stop copyright infringement to two popular community message boards that have for years been posting several Gazette articles a day in their entirety (with attribution). One internet community focuses primarily on Schenenectady and the other on our major suburb Rotterdam, NY.  They both have lively discussion on public issues every day.

At their Editors’ Notebook weblog, the Gazette Managing Editor Judy Patrick, posted an explanation titled “Link to us” on Thursday (Nov. 6, 200.  It gives the unbelievable impression that Gazette editors were somehow never aware of postings at the message boards until reporter Justin Mason referred to one of them this week.   After praising the robust discussion at the internet fora, Patrick says:......
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/11/08/copyright-cook-cuomo-warnings-wendy-wind/

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On Judy's blog site http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/editors/2008/nov/06/1106_editorsnote/


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Link to us
By Judy Patrick
Thursday, November 6, 2008

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When I go to a local diner, I love seeing people sitting at the counter reading The Gazette. I love it even more when I overhear them talking about one of our stories, especially one that I know the reporter worked really hard to get.

Internet message boards and blogs have dramatically expanded those kinds of discussions. It's wonderful to see all sorts of people speaking up about local issues.

We at The Gazette like our articles to generate public discussion anywhere: in diners, on private message boards or here on our own Web site. But please remember that our stories are protected by copyright and posting them in their entirety without our permission violates that copyright.

Earlier this week, Justin Mason, one of our Schenectady reporters, referred me to a local message board where one of our stories had been posted in its entirety.

I took a look and, indeed, there it was. And there were others, lots of others, from our news coverage of City Hall, local school systems and county governments, to the opinion pieces Art Clayman and Joe Slomka write. There were even reproductions of some of our photos.

Posting our entire stories is not fair use of our copyrighted work. We don't object when sites summarize one of our stories and then provide a direct link to the actual story on our Web site. That’s become a fairly standard way bloggers refer to published works. People who want to read the whole story are provided a quick and easy way to reach it. That sends readers to our Web site, which is important to us, but as well allows them to return to the original site.

We are not a big corporation trying to stifle public comment; we are a small, family-owned newspaper trying to safeguard our intellectual property.

Judy Patrick
Managing editor


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November 6, 2008
4:27 p.m.

[ Suggest removal ]  gazettereader ( no real name given ) says...
What is the process if you want to link to a story in the paper, but not on the website?

November 6, 2008
9:36 p.m.

[ Suggest removal ]  countyresident ( no real name given ) says...
Let me see if I understand this. You have a feature to "share the story" via email, print, Digg, Fark, Reddit, Facebook, Del.icio.us and stumbeupon - which all reproduce your articles in full - and offer RSS feeds, archiving (permanently via Google and Archive.com) but posting them on a website is against your copyright?

Please explain how you can offer these features - and why it's ok for Google, et al. to archive/display these - but it's not ok for citizens who are discussing your stories.

November 6, 2008
11:39 p.m.

[ Suggest removal ]  dan ( Dan Goodspeed ) says...
When you submit stories to Digg, Fark, Reddit, Facebook, and Del.icio.us, they do just as Judy says, have a summary, with a link back to the story at dailygazette.com for the full story. Never in full.

As far as google, while they do keep cache copies of the articles the Gazette publishes, 99.9% of those who read a Gazette story they found on Google, read it on dailygazette.com, where Google refers them. The cache is really only used when a site goes down or an article is taken offline.

And as far as Archive.org, it's a non-profit web archival site, that let's you visit sites of yore. There are no advertisements. It stores copies of the entire site. No one would link to a Gazette story on Archive.org rather than on dailygazette.com. Most instances of a full Gazette story being copied/pasted to a blog is for the sole purpose to drive traffic to the blog by using other's content. If the blogger really wanted to share/discuss the story with their readers, it's easy enough to just give the link and give credit where credit is due.

November 8, 2008
7:23 p.m.
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Why on earth would the site staff remove this posting?  
David Giacalone's website http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/

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Maybe this article by Judy's predecessor has some clues: http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/editors/2008/aug/12/terms-engagement/