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kempis1
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      I don't know what to make of recent outrageous claims that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is being victimized by racism.
     First, Democratic congressman John Lewis of Georgia, a civil rights figure and Obama supporter, claimed that Republican presidential candidate John McCain was fomenting racism by questioning Obama's onetime involvement with 1960s radical William Ayers.
     Then Democratic congressman John Murtha contended that racism in his western Pennsylvania district was cutting Obama's lead in the polls.
     A racist judges a person’s worth by the color of his or her skin and may vote against that person because of race. But favoring or voting for a person because of color is equally racist. Tell me promotion of Obama's candidancy a few months ago by television talk show host Oprah wasn't racially motivated.
     There are plenty of good, non-racist reasons to oppose Obama. A few examples:
     --Proposed tax increases that would penalize small- and medium-size businesses while giving what the Wall Street Journal calls welfare-like allotments to 63 million Americans who pay no federal income tax.
     --An inevitable increase in gas and oil prices because Democrats adamantly oppose expanded areas for oil and gas drilling in our country.
     --An extremist pro-choice position that would refuse care to babies born alive after failed abortion.
      --A premature troop pullout from Iraq that would spark a civil war which the most brutal bad guys would win.
      It's not Obama's race that's a problem, it's his radical left-liberal agenda.



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How about----is it intolerable of someone to vote against the so called tolerant folks???? That word racist also falls into the category of intolerance
so,,,what do they want a totally double minded mushy America because this is where we are heading.....double minded to the effect that we think
we are making 'proper' free choices yet, dumbed over by the 'shepherds'.......wait go this way no wait go that way....but never look behind the curtain....

I think they should all just shut up and speak....we sit back and see and hear.....then we shall weigh them....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Kevin March
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Who's the racist if only one person is bringing up the fact of race?  I didn't vote for Obama, and I didn't vote for him on account of his policies, not his skin color.


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I think that is true of most people who voted against Obama, it had nothing to do with his race just his liberal policies and his plans for this country in the future.
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November 6, 2008, 12:56am Report to Moderator
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it is racist if u believe he is a muslim and and marxist and in rev, wright;s back pocket -- cause u are feeding the conspiracy that uses color and slander to change people's minds ---
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November 6, 2008, 3:11am Report to Moderator
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it is racist if u believe he is a muslim and and marxist and in rev, wright;s back pocket -- cause u are feeding the conspiracy that uses color and slander to change people's minds ---



Holy Leaps of Logic Batman!

You're missing quite a few steps and "if then or" statements in there.  Not that logic is a strong point to the ideologically blind.

Color/race has nothing to do with it, except by the mere coincidence that Rev. Wright is "black," as is Obama.  It has everything to do with the ideas espoused by Wright, who Obama has stated had a "profound impact on him."  You honestly think that Wright's sermons didnt have an effect on Obama's thinking?  You honestly think that only "Whites" can be racists?  You need to get out of that safe warm security blanket you have wrapped around your head.
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nickelplated revolver
November 6, 2008, 6:44am Report to Moderator
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there u go. u have no idea what effect wright had on obama. You base your statement on what evidence?


In fact, Obama disavowed wright after he made those statements.

so therefore  -- your if-then - wright had no influence obama == quite the contrary, it seems. yet, u seem to think he did. I would suggest then you logic is faulty.
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nickelplated revolver
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And if you think Obama is not being discriminate against, well, keep drinking the kool aid.
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Obama rejected Wright's views only after it was revealed how the good Rev thought of white America. There will always be some discrimination by both the blacks and the whites but the days of hating someone because of his skin color by the majority of people is over. The election victory proves that point.
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Nickel,
The CNN exit poll is counter to your claim of white voter discrimination.  If anybody was discriminated against, it would be John McCain by blacks.  Blacks voted for Obama 95% to McCain's 5%.  Compare that to the approximately 50/50 outcome of polled white voters.  So you may want to rethink your argument on racism in the election based on the statistical evidence.

You take Reverend Wrights sermons and couple that with the Black voters overwhelmingly coming out for Obama, then tell me who voted for the candidate based on race and who voted for the candidate based on policy positions.  

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
Quoted Text
Vote by Sex and Race
Total

White Men (36%)
41%Obama
57%McCain
2%No Answer


White Women (39%)
46%Obama
53%McCain
1%No Answer


Black Men (5%)
95%Obama
5%McCain
N/A


Black Women (7%)
96%Obama
3%McCain
1%No Answer


Latino Men (4%)
64%Obama
33%McCain
3%No Answer


Latino Women (5%)
68%Obama
30%McCain
2%No Answer


All Other Races (5%)
64%Obama
32%McCain
4%No Answer





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According to the 2006 US Census Bureau, this country had a population of 299,398,484. Of that population 80% were white and 12.8% were black. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

So I would hardly think that race was a major factor among whites in this presidential election! Ya better read the newspaper again....OBAMA WON!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Every time my priest goes off on a hate-filled rant and beseeches God to damn America, and says that we got what we deserved on 9-11 (A view incidentally held by most liberals very quietly,) I miss mass. But it doesn't stop me from going when he is sweet and gentle. Also I am proud he baptized my kids. None of his views or sermons influence or reflect my thinking. That is why I keep worshiping there especially when there are about 6 trillion other churches to go to. For example, my church and priest are against abortion, but I am for it. My priest preaches against the death penalty and I am for it. My priest says that America is rotten, and I think America is great. My priest thinks the we should have slave reparations and I am against it. My preist thinks its OK to talk aboyt the Clinton sex scandal 10 years later as part of an uplifting homily, but I didn't know he said "Bill was riding dirty with Monica."

As many times as he expresses these political views from the pulpit and the crowd goes into crazed frenzy, it doesn't faze me or I was out of town. Really. Sometimes (the media tells me) my priest brings in a southern baptist minister who screams and dances about how bad white people are and how Hillary is a racist. I miss that sermon so I can't really say much about it.

I couldn't denounce my priest any more than I could denounce my European heritage. But if he goes to Albany and writes a book and gives a speech to the press corp, then I might denounce him and go to a different church. Really, I am not a radical racist who hates America, the police, or the traditions and institutions of American greatness. Really. Besides, until the media asks me too many questions, it is just too hard to find a new church.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Bravo!!!
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nickelplated revolver
November 6, 2008, 10:29am Report to Moderator
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nicely said ---

blacks supported obama because he is black -- yes -- and electing him was historically -- but blacks also generally support democrats -- so if it weren't obama, it would have been someone else.

i am not saying everyone who voted for mccaid was racist -- hardly -- mccain is a good man and honmorable man, and I am sure people voted for him because of that -- however, some people -- i can't give u a number would never vote for a black man -- just like some people who never vote for a mormon or a roman catholic for president. Remember JFK -- people thought the pope would be pulling his strings once elected?

so the point is, hate exists in all elections --- it was perhaps more manifest in this one ---

and, no, it is not racist to vote against obama if u disagree with his platform -- that is the american way. amen
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